No splicing....plug and play!
No splicing....plug and play!
Yeah, it isn't a bad price at all. It's certainly on my short list of options to add to the system.
So I did a bit of looking around, it looks like the ID 10 would fit in the underseat enclosures I'd been considering, even though those seats won't be there. It also looks like a Dayton HO 10" will fit as well, though I keep seeing conflicting info if they perform better in a sealed or ported enclosure. Think I saw on diyma that they perform really well in a pretty small ported enclosure (~.73ft^3 if I remember correctly) but I can't remember what they recommended for the frequency to tune it to...got it somewhere on my open windows on my phone's browser lol. Gotta do some more reading about ported enclosures being I hadn't considered them at all before to figure out what kind of size I'd be looking at including port area.
Those two are probably on the short list of subs I'm looking at right now, with all the recommendations for the Dayton having me leaning that way right now. An unintended plus with the lower price of either of those subs compared to the SD4's, I think it'd be worthwhile to just get a Dayton DSP while I'm at it.
Thanks for the help everyone, always open to other suggestions for the subs or amplifiers.
To run active, you will need a dsp or hu with the capability
Ah, I was referring to using the electric crossovers on the Helix M Four to set up an "active" system for the tweeter and woofer channels. Not complete control over everything like with a DSP.
Though like I said above, especially if I end up going with something like the ID or Dayton HO subs, that frees up enough to at least buy the DSP. I probably could learn how to set it up myself, I'd just have to do a lot of reading on how it all works and spend the time to understand what everything means. Got a few audio shops near by that I've seen recommended before if all else fails.
I would go with the ID's over the Dayton's. Not knocking them, just that car audio is what they're made for kind of thing, I've got no knowledge of them except from what I've learned here. I just have first hand experience with the ID's and I know what they do for me that's all.
The Dayton Reference HO is definitely not the best SQ sub as they designed it for small box with higher power handling. If you compare to the Reference HF in the proper enclosure, the HF walks all over it when it comes to getting to those lower frequencies. I had a 15" HF in 5 cubes sealed. It sounded amazing for SQ. Hell, it sounded amazing for SPL, right until it didn't. Those things are easy to kill because they mask clipping very well. lol.
There you go, answered.
Yeah, I do know the HF is considered better for SQ, but don't they require significantly larger boxes compared to the HO? I mean I get the 15" would need a large enclosure, but I think even the 10's want a couple cubic feet at least as well. There's a lot of options if I go that big with the box, but it is primarily a work truck so I need to keep the box smaller. I am thinking of building a custom box at this point and changing up what my plans were to begin with, so the IDQ's are probably going to work just fine for me now. Thanks for all the suggestions!
Sure, let's see some pics as it's going along.
Don’t put too much faith into thinking different amplifiers will make significant differences in sound. Yes there are differences, but they pale in comparison to everything else that matters more, like tuning and installation. The Pioneer digital series are really good sounding amplifiers for the money and even for twice what they cost MSRP probably because Pioneer has the experience and engineering resources to make an amplifier design that is very good.
The start-stop compatible thing though I can’t speak for. That is something that might make the HELIX line of amplifiers worth the extra expense maybe, if it is really an issue?
Last edited by JCsAudio; 05-20-2020 at 07:43 PM.
Mazda CX5 AF GB10, AF GB25, AF GB60, JL VX800/8i, AF GB12 sealed, Mmats M1400.1
Ford F150 AF GB10, AF GB25, JLC5, JL twk88/Pioneer D8604, Mosconi Pico, JBL Club 5501, Sundown SD3-10 ported @ 30 Hz
Sienna AF GB15, Audiofrog GS690, JL twk88/Pioneer D9500F, JBL GTX500, Alpine SWS10 ported @ 31 Hz
https://www.diymobileaudio.com/threa.../#post-5608901