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    Another newbie from Germany

    Dear all,

    after quite some time lurking in this forum i decided to give it a go and register.
    Basically coming over here after i read that lots of members i read articles in dyma from were more active here for some time now.

    Am in the process of tuning my own system, but keeping the installers setup as backup, just in case i really mess things up, which i do often.

    Thanks for reading

    Peter
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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Welcome to the forum.
    Meh, it'll play.

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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Grüß dich, Peter, und herzlich willkommen
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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Willkommen Peter!!!

    Folks are happy to answer your questions here as long as you make an honest attempt to read and figure out for yourself. There is a wealth of information at your finger tips. Please learn what you can and contribute what you can.

    I find it ironic. My car is built in your home town. Your car is built in my home town. Go figure. Up until now I thought my boss was the only guy crazy enough to import a mustang into Germany. Now there is two!

    Guten Tag,

    Ge0
    Last edited by Ge0; 04-24-2020 at 09:55 AM.

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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Peter, Leipzig has a special place in my heart, because that is where my first girlfriend was from!! I was living in Heidelberg at the time, so it was quite a commute, but she was worth it!
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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidRam View Post
    Peter, Leipzig has a special place in my heart, because that is where my first girlfriend was from!! I was living in Heidelberg at the time, so it was quite a commute, but she was worth it!
    Were you stationed in Heidelberg? I used to do business with a small print press company there . Now I'm a Bosch.

    Ge0

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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Ge0 View Post
    Were you stationed in Heidelberg? I used to do business with a small print press company there . Now I'm a Bosch.

    Ge0
    No, civilian. I grew up there... It's style my favorite city in the world. Heidelberg, that it is...
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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Danke and thank you.

    Well, i was born in Aachen, which is quite the opposite direction to the west. In fact it's Germanies most western city with more than 200.000 people.
    My wife was born and raised in Leipzig, that's why we're living here now.
    Right now i'm in my 10th iteration of setting up the DSP and still learning new things everytime i get back into the car.
    At first i only did some EQ work, then after 2 or three iterations i moved on to level matching channels and then sides to each other, right now i'm experimenting with measuring step responses, impulses and stuff like that and getting tape measures right when you only have two hands and have to sit in the car.
    But it's getting better every time i get back into the car.

    Best regards,

    Peter
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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Under normal circumstances I visit Germany a few times a year on business. Mostly towards the south in the Black Forest region. Stuttgart, Reutlingen, Buhl, and occasionally Munich. I recently flew my wife over after a business trip and spent our 20th anniversary in Berlin. I remember passing Leipzig on the A9 but did not have time to stop and tour the region. Well, that's enough about me.

    Tell us a little about your measurement setup and methods. What is your system configuration? I see you have a few amp channels...

    Ge0

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    Re: Another newbie from Germany

    Well, i do the moving mic for frequency responses. Unfortunately i don't have the equipment to do reproducable sweeps and so i only do them for doing impulse measurements with the tip of the mic where the middle of my head is (at least approximately). Microphone used is an UMIK-1 with calibration files. I only use the 90° calibration though.
    Software is REW running on MacOS Catalina.
    Housecurves are made with Jazzis Spreadsheet.
    I tried several different housecurves so far, the JBL, Whiteledge and half of whitledge and in the meantime i made my own derivation of a combination of whitledge and half of whitledge.
    A bit more bass than with half of whitledge and a bit less treble as you sit so damn near the tweeters in the Mustang GT.
    I EQ each channel, but as the Mosconi D2 100.4 DSP has no real independant channel EQ, but rather EQ bands that are shared between channel pairs i tried different approaches for EQing especially the Midbass drivers.
    Right now i'm doing some kind of graphic EQ for the midbass drivers with a Q of 2.515 (default in the Mosconi is 4) with 2-3 bands of the leftover bands as parametric where needed.

    This is my current iteration for a house curve and left/right measurement within my Mustang with the equipment in my signature.

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    I know it could be better, but i'm still learning new things almost everytime i get back into my car. According to my wife that is too often, so it angers her a bit.

    Current tuning is:

    Subwoofer: Lowpass at 80Hz with a LR 24db electrical crossover
    Midbass: highpass 80Hz LR 24db, Lowpass 2500 Hz Butterworth 12db
    Tweeters: highpass 2500 Hz LR 24db.
    Last edited by Cathul; 04-24-2020 at 11:13 AM.
    SYNC3 headunit
    Mosconi Pico 8/10 DSP
    Mosconi D2 500.1
    Gladen Zero Pro 165.3 DC
    JL Audio 10w3v3 in custom enclosure (Blueprint by Mark @Caraudiofabrication)

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