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    Time delay

    I played around with it for the very first time and, yes it bloody works , I had been reading about it for a while but now I have experienced it I am impressed.

    Is it right that a one millisecond delay can change the sound that much? Well move it from the sides and place it all across the dash, I'd have thought 1ms imperceptible, but I guess it is the interaction of the sound waves.

    Shame for the passengers

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    Re: Time delay

    Put it this way, this weekend I adjusted a European championship winning cars right sub/midbass (it only uses 4 speakers total) by 14cm and the difference to the midbass dynamics and focus were night and day, when everything comes together it makes a huge difference! The full range drivers had a stunning job made of their timing by the cars owner, but no one had noticed until I got smaart out that the midbass was just slightly off...

    the car is a freak... 8” €100 shallow drivers in 0.6cuft door enclosures and a pair of uranium full range drivers makes for an awesome sounding car, and it uses budget ground zero amps too... and a budget hu... it has a dsp ultra but only because they need the channels, could equally use a dsp.mini... it’s quite amazing what I could improve on the car with a small spend (a topping D10 would make it loads better for example) but unvelievably sq isn’t it’s priority
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    Re: Time delay

    I should add that’s approx 0.4msec on a single midbass driver to make a big difference to a world class car

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    Re: Time delay

    Yep, time delay is amazing!

    To add another cool story: I tuned a car recently that has a rear speaker touching driver's seat headrest. Conventional tuning left the sound pulling directly to the back left where that speaker is because it was about six inches from your head. I changed the time delay of that rear channel by ~1ms and the stage anchored back to the front dashboard. It was fun to slowly slide the delay and feel the stage shift front/rear in real time.

    To put it in perspective, 1ms of delay is about 13" (34cm) of physical distance.
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    Re: Time delay

    Not sure if you have seen this or not, but you might find it useful/helpful:

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    Re: Time delay

    I used the time alignment function on my pioneer it set the distances which was nice but its auto eq isnt made for a "live" set up
    lol it turned by basss to -24 max and my tweeters were extremely bright
    but the distances were close I measured left those and retuned

    and yes the sound difference is amazing
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