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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    Certain box building programs figure missing info from supplied information !

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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Zazzi View Post
    The Seas L26ROY 10" might be worth adding to the list. Tons of travel for a ten inch woofer with a reasonable enclosure size.

    https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...1001-04-4-ohm/
    That is a good one Justin. See below on 400 watts. Vb= 1.925 Fb= 22.88 Hz.

    Seas L26ROY 10" Subwoofer (blue) vs AudioFrog GB12 (orange)
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    Here is the Seas in purple with a 25 Hz Fb, same Vb. Sundown SD3-10 is in yellow for reference from above.

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    Last edited by JCsAudio; 12-01-2019 at 05:22 AM. Reason: mixed up Fb with Vb
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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    Thanks for those!
    The pioneer kind of suprises me considering you can pick up a 12" version with a pioneer box for like $122
    https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-SW...9-efa3b2de3e71


    Also, is that Rockford sub this one
    https://rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/r2sd4-12/

    Or this one:
    https://rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p3sd4-12/
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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    What About the SSA Demon 10? I’ve wondered if this would be a viable option since it’s only has a depth of 5 5/8. Possible alternative to the Sundown SDS-10


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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    SSA Demon 10 is aesthetically pleasing ( a looker ) T/S parameters look good for ported/vented enclosure .
    https://limitlesslithium.com/demon-1...woofer-by-ssa/

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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    Quote Originally Posted by Queef View Post
    SSA Demon 10 is aesthetically pleasing ( a looker ) T/S parameters look good for ported/vented enclosure .
    https://limitlesslithium.com/demon-1...woofer-by-ssa/
    Seems to be more of an SPL type subwoofer with a high 43.6 resonant frequency. The higher fs reduces output at that frequency which could be good for cabin gain if you do not have a DSP I guess. You can see this in the graph as a dip in the response. It doesn't need a big box either which is nice.

    SSA Demon Vb= 1.6 Fb= 30 Hz (Red) vs SSA Demon Vb= .9 Fb= 33 Hz per SSA (green) vs Sundown SD3 10 (yellow) same as above. Le is not given so that is why the response for the Demon doesn't taper off.
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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    Thank you for this.


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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    I have been a fan of Scan Speak, have built a number of Revelator based kit home speakers and have a Revelator 28W/4878T00 I plan on building an enclosure for in the shallow storage space in the back of my X6. Challenge is the ideal sealed enclosure size is 1.5 cubic feet. I will be lucky to fit 1.3 cu ft. The Discovery 26W/4558T only requires .5 and is not as deep.

    I also built a 1 cubic foot enclosure with the 9” 23W/4557T02 with a 23W/0-00-00 passive radiator and would consider using them in a new box since I could build a smaller enclosure but like the Discovery, runs out of excursion and won’t take much power or play as loud. What it will do is play very low with low distortion. I also don’t think I need to play so loud as to run out of excursion but don’t know for sure.

    Any thoughts on the Revelator subs? Which of my two options do you think would work better?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    If box is to small , stuffing it can gain back some cubic footage.

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    Re: Under appreciated Subwoofers

    Quote Originally Posted by Queef View Post
    If box is to small , stuffing it can gain back some cubic footage.
    If that was for me, thanks. Yes, aware of that and plan on stuffing the enclosure well.
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