Improving "ambience" !

[Hic]

L-R rearfill is beneficial in a case by case basis. If you have a large sedan or suv it can really help give you a sense of space. You need a ton of delay to pull this off too.

Does time-delay work best in limos or busses?

[Hillbilly SQ]

The person I consulted with about l-r rearfill demonstrated it to me (as well as several others) in his car several years ago by letting us hear with, without, and just how little sound the rears were actually making to make such a huge difference. Not sure if he wants his name thrown around but he knows who he is and was a ton of help. There's no magic to it. It's all about tricking the brain to make the stage seem deeper and/or wider than it really is. And it will wreck the staging just as fast as it will help it. It's a delicate balance that can drive you crazy getting "just right". You simply configure the rear speakers to cancel out mono info and only play left and right cues whether it be in the processor or by twisting the negative speaker wires together and putting each positive into the amp. From what I understand how deep the "room" is has to do with how much delay you add to simulate the left and right cues bouncing off the back wall of the "room". And like with real estate speaker placement is all about location to get the desired effect. Rear deck of a sedan works well. Off axis adds width while on axis adds depth. I think that's right but if not I encourage the ones who know more than I do about this subject to correct me so others will be able to learn.

[Hic]

I was wondering , what size tires ? I want to raise the soundstage in a vette (how high will the stage rise, when I donk the vette? )

Y`all might have lost sumptin in translation, what`d it cost for each of this group? Fifty? - Two hundred?

[Hic]

Is this `worth` doing? Are echoes... echoes... or bandpassing the issue? Several years seem like more time, too much time ?
If you don`t think it`s "all that, or it`s too hard to wire up !

[Hillbilly SQ]

l-r rearfill is something you'll only benefit from if you do it correctly. Yes it's worth trying IF AND ONLY IF you have the right tools and knowledge to do it correctly. You need to make sure the rears are free of any big peaks. You need to be able to be able to delay them 20-25ms in relation to the fronts. If you don't have the tools to do it correctly then don't bother. Big thing is having enough time delay. When I was planning my build I decided that it wasn't worth it for my system goals. And it's been said that not every type of car/truck will take well to l-r rearfill. My Grand Cherokee was a perfect candidate for it and did quite will with it. We decided it wasn't worth the trouble in my single cab Ram.

[Hic]

If you want more delay [ loop a channel , is what Marv mentions ]. Time-alignment works if you use it ... period ! [QUOTE]My Grand Cherokee was a perfect candidate for it and did quite will with it. We decided it wasn't worth the trouble in my single cab Ram./QUOTE]

If talkin shit becomes an Olympic Sport [ I have sent you my name and number and will back you myself or find other people with liked minded goals ! bronze or Silver ain't an option for you . ]

[QUOTE]When I was planning my build I decided that it wasn't worth it for my system goals. [/QUOTE] Are goals a system that is less than it could be ... boring/conventional ?

You Go Hillbilly SQ - prolly about da sound , hmm ?

[Hillbilly SQ]

[QUOTE=Hic;44966]If you want more delay [ loop a channel , is what Marv mentions ]. Time-alignment works if you use it ... period ! [QUOTE]My Grand Cherokee was a perfect candidate for it and did quite will with it. We decided it wasn't worth the trouble in my single cab Ram./QUOTE]

If talkin shit becomes an Olympic Sport [ I have sent you my name and number and will back you myself or find other people with liked minded goals ! bronze or Silver ain't an option for you . ]

When I was planning my build I decided that it wasn't worth it for my system goals. [/QUOTE] Are goals a system that is less than it could be ... boring/conventional ?

You Go Hillbilly SQ - prolly about da sound , hmm ?

Just curious, are you the owner of my truck?

[BigAl205]

I need to change the title of this thread to "Improving grammar"

[papacueball]

Y u no use da reerphil?

[BigAl205]

It's pronounced "rear amberlamps"