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Un garage à la française
Thought it might be cool to post a build log of my garage here, it might not be as detailed a log as Al's (I'll likely forget to take pictures most of the time), but since one day I'll likely host a meet in the garage, it fits nicely here. If nothing else, it will be neat for me to go back and look through the pictures. So, without further ado, here are the plans:
https://i.imgur.com/y4jMHJc.jpg
It's going to be 32x34, with a 16x32 apron, 10' tall, with an attic space in the roof. Something I asked for was a wood stove, so I can keep warm if I am working on something in the winter. Was not really that worried about having A/C installed, I may come to regret that in Virginia humid summers. But, if needed I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. The back will be almost completely below grade, with the sides about half below (I'll take a picture of the yard at some point to show where it is going). There will be an access door in the attic so that I can get up there to store crap, but also as an emergency exit in case the wood stove causes a fire and I cannot get out the front.
As for the interior, no real plans yet. The primary use is going to be a workshop for classic cars.... once it is built my father in law has a 71 Monte Carlo that will be going in there for me to work on, when that leaves, my middle son has a 65 Mustang that will go in and eventually I plan to get myself an old truck that will be in there. I'm not a mechanic, just like to tinker around (the Monte Carlo essentially just needs the interior, wiring, bumpers etc and once the Mustang goes in all the work that is out of my league will be complete), so there are not plans for a lift. I'll likely just pick up a QuickJack and use that if I need to work on suspension, brakes, oil changes and such. I do plan to set up one area as a sort of hang out space for my kids, nothing much, just a TV, sofa, that sort of deal. While it is big enough for more than 1 vehicle to be in there at a time, I only plan to keep 1 in there so I have plenty of room around it. One thing I hate about my current garage is with both cars in there, toolboxes, bikes and everything, there is never any actual room to work comfortably. So, trying to avoid that with this one.
Finally got the permit approved this week, been waiting since the middle of September. I'm hoping this means that work can start soon.
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Un garage à la française
I KNEW IT!
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I can't wait to see where you're able to take this new project
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Got this roughly staked out today, really gives a good perspective on the size.
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The smaller tree to the front left is getting taken down (its rotten) and then a bunch of branches are getting trimmed from the 2 big oak trees.
Tuesday afternoon the guy who will be excavating is coming out to take a look, hopefully he'll be able to start digging before Thanksgiving, but we'll see.
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Not so much a garage update, but we had a concrete pad poured along the back of the house earlier this year and finally picked up a hot tub to go out there. Now, I really need to hurry up and get the garage built so I can get the electrician to hook up the hot tub.
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The contractor we planned to use to excavate ended up getting COVID and has to quarantine until the end of the year, which is likely putting a delay on anything happening. Have another guy coming out today to take a look, hoping to see some action before the end of the year, but doubtful at this point.
Will be nice to have something more than just a spray painted odd sized tennis court in the back yard.
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Excavation started last week.
https://youtu.be/lDPO2Ol_Uyk
Had hoped to get the footers excavated this week, then get the concrete poured for those, but it bucketed with rain Saturday night turning it into a muddy swamp, then last night and into this morning we got about 6 or so inches of snow. Annoyingly, it'll be a few days now until anything gets going again.
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Man, I'd LOVE to have a nice shop/garage like this myself. Its definitely on my list of things to do at some point in my life - hopefully sooner than later :)
I know its faux pas to talk financials, but I'd love to know what something like this costs.
Exciting project!
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I know its faux pas to talk financials, but I'd love to know what something like this costs.
I'll tell you when it is finished!! Hopefully, it does not end up over budget.
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I just did a driveway and two car garage. Stick kit they call it. Comes with garage doors, all wood, vinyl siding, shingles, buried electrical line, inside and outside lighting. Upgraded to 2x6 instead of 2x4. 185 yards of concrete. $60,000. Took about two months. This is for future sports car and or muscle car with all out audio system of course
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A little more progress, ready for concrete to be poured for footings...
https://youtu.be/cQq9uKM_4d8
But, snowstorm forecast Sunday, which likely since I want to get this built means we'll get all the snow.
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Tiniest update, but an update nonetheless...
https://i.imgur.com/bDBdmI5.jpg
Tomorrow, the plan is for the guy who did the excavation to come and put in a driveway leading down from the house, with that done then hopefully things start to get moving. What sucks is that the price of everything has gone nuts, the budget we had for the garage and some other house projects, might now only cover the garage and maybe one or two other things, to say that's disappointing is an understatement. While my wife is not complaining, I can't help but feel guilty that I am getting a huge garage and she likely will have to wait on things she (really we had both) wanted.
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I'm sure your wife is used to disappointment by now :brick:
Congrats on getting the trusses...that's a pretty big milestone
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I'm sure your wife is used to disappointment by now :brick:
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Stupid snow, had some rebar dropped off Friday and 2 dump trucks of stone to put the driveway in leading down to the garage.
Then of course it snowed again, so the ground managed to just about dry out, started getting progress, now under a blanket of snow.
The temperature was 60F Friday and Saturday, today it's not getting above freezing, the rest of this week is at least in the mid 40's or higher, so it should melt quickly, but then rain Thursday. So, guess it'll be another week or so of waiting for the ground to not be a swamp again.
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Got the rebar into the footers, inspection scheduled for tomorrow.
https://i.imgur.com/zbIivJR.jpg
Wood stove will go here.
https://i.imgur.com/4on6j3J.jpg
And, have a new driveway leading down from the house, which yes, I do plan to drive my car down later today and park in the "garage"
https://i.imgur.com/K25jl6s.jpg
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Inspection passed, hopefully get some concrete next week.
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Dang. We just did a two story garage with an apartment up top in 18 days. We ran an i-joist short (architect did the takeoff). I thought that was going to be a 2 month wait but it ended up only taking about 10 days. Getting those trusses already is a blessing.
You guys need to get used to the snow!
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Concrete getting poured today, thankfully before 4 days of rain coming later this week.
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That's one part of building I've never tried. I did a couple trench pours for small additions but never finish concrete. Too expensive to practice on!
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With the cost of materials these days, pouring a bag of sand is becoming too expensive to practice on!!
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Yeah.... Material cost is getting frigging stupid.
Hoping the block for the walls gets delivered sometime this week, then the walls can start going up.
I'm also trying to find someone to cut the large oak limb down. One guy said he'd come last week, never showed up, called another and left a message, didn't return my call, a 3rd was supposed to come look at it Saturday lunchtime, said they'd call me if something came up. They never showed up and never called either.
Between the crazy cost of materials and contractors laziness, it's infuriating.
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Man that is frustrating when contractors don't follow through, hate it for you!
You mentioned a wood stove, have you picked one out yet? I'm going to be putting something like this into my shop...
https://youtu.be/2hyr27W7Xzk
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Not picked out a wood stove yet, that thing is pretty cool looking and I can imagine will heat up an area pretty quickly with the fan. I'll definitely look into that, I had primarily just been looking on Craigslist for something, but I also like the idea of a somewhat DIY wood stove.
Someone supposed to be coming here between 4-5pm today to look at this one tree limb, I'm not holding my breath.
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What about a mini-split? That way you get heat and AC.
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It’s a shame you’re so far away from me. I got a ladder & I got a chainsaw. How hard can it be?
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I would just give you a US Stoves 1537 in good used condition. I guess they went for about $3000 new. One of my customers gave it to me. It's good enough to heat my big inefficient 1825 built house. I had it tied in to my heating system and if it stayed above 40° or so the furnace didn't even kick on. I just got sick of the firewood situation. Even though I got wood for free ( my step dad owns a large tree service and before you ask he won't drive that far to take down 1 tree!) it wasn't worth the savings to me. Sure I save a couple hundred for the couple cold months but that didn't outweigh the inconvenience.
If I went down to yours or Jason's get together's I could bring my truck.
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What about a mini-split? That way you get heat and AC.
I thought about that, but for now not going to worry too much with AC. I spoke to someone who has AC in their garage and they said it was not worth it. Eventually, I might add something, but at least initially it's not worth it.
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It’s a shame you’re so far away from me. I got a ladder & I got a chainsaw. How hard can it be?
Well, it's 10' or more off the ground and about the size of a small tree on the side of a large tree. If you look at post #3, the picture from the house looking down towards the spray painted shape, it's the huge branch poking out to the left. Not that it matters, as you said, it's a bit far of a drive (I've got a ladder, just no chain saw!).
The guy showed up yesterday, $650 (ouch) to cut it down and cut it into log size. Quite a bit more than I was expecting to be honest.
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Theslaking
I would just give you a US Stoves 1537 in good used condition. I guess they went for about $3000 new. One of my customers gave it to me. It's good enough to heat my big inefficient 1825 built house. I had it tied in to my heating system and if it stayed above 40° or so the furnace didn't even kick on. I just got sick of the firewood situation. Even though I got wood for free ( my step dad owns a large tree service and before you ask he won't drive that far to take down 1 tree!) it wasn't worth the savings to me. Sure I save a couple hundred for the couple cold months but that didn't outweigh the inconvenience.
If I went down to yours or Jason's get together's I could bring my truck.
No idea if that will work out or not, but wanted to say thank you for at least even considering it.
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I'll probably pick one up at some point to keep a stash of firewood, but I'm not getting one to try and get this limb down.
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Oh. 650 for just a limb is high. Dang.
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That's to cut it down, then cut it into firewood sized logs, but yeah, I thought it was a lot. Unfortunately, I've got nothing to compare it to since none of the other places I called either called me back or showed up.
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Seems like the perfect excuse to buy a chainsaw :)
Or, HD rents them.
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Seems like the perfect excuse to buy a chainsaw
While I'll take any excuse to buy a power tool, I'm not sure this particular tree limb will be the one to start using a chainsaw on.
I want my garage built, but I also want to retain my limbs!!
Stupid snow yesterday, slowing progress again. I'm worried the longer things take, the more materials are going to cost. Thinking of just ordering all the material I can think of now, even if it sits in the yard a few weeks.
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Don't you have a reciprocating saw? (sawzall) that you can buy a pruning blade for? Like this https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-1...ade/1000594963
Start at the end and work your way toward the trunk. but i realize it may be too tall for whatever ladder you have....
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Ok I don't want it to look like I'm reply bombing your thread but I have an update.
I had posted earlier about 7/16 OSB being $51.64/sht and it still is here locally. HOWEVER you can buy "Solarbord" which is 7/16" OSB with a silver radiant barrier attached to it. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Solarbord-S...4-x-8/50432994 As of this writing that was $32.55/sht. I used this in my building and it helps to cut down radiant heat coming through in the summer time. Since it has the radiant barrier on it it's now a "product" and not a commodity like regular OSB is. It shouldn't fluctuate so wildly with the market. I used it on all sidewalls and roof. The silver side goes to the inside.
Hope that helps.
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Don't you have a reciprocating saw?
Nope, no sawzall here, it might well be too high to start. I'll just have to suck up the $650 this time, I did have a guy come out a couple weeks ago who cuts wood in the area, he took one look and said "nope, that will need the pro's" so at least I know it is not an easy job!! At least I should get a decent amount of firewood from it as well.
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Notloudenuf
Ok I don't want it to look like I'm reply bombing your thread but I have an update.
I had posted earlier about 7/16 OSB being $51.64/sht and it still is here locally. HOWEVER you can buy "Solarbord" which is 7/16" OSB with a silver radiant barrier attached to it.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Solarbord-S...4-x-8/50432994 As of this writing that was $32.55/sht. I used this in my building and it helps to cut down radiant heat coming through in the summer time. Since it has the radiant barrier on it it's now a "product" and not a commodity like regular OSB is. It shouldn't fluctuate so wildly with the market. I used it on all sidewalls and roof. The silver side goes to the inside.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, that's awesome, the radiant barrier would be really awesome as well to help cut down on the heat. One small problem though, when I click on the link "This item is unavailable. Here are some similar items" I did also check this one https://www.lowes.com/pd/Solarbord-S...x-8/1000048625 but that is also showing as out of stock. None showing available at Home Depot either, maybe I'll get lucky and some will come in. I think I need 40 or so sheets, so saving $15-$20 on that over OSB adds up to a pretty big saving.
Hoping to talk to the main contractor I have been working with this week and get a shopping list, off the top of my head I know I need:
OSB
Roof shingles
Roof felt
Garage door
Entry door
Window
Framing for those 3 things
Chimney
Electrical wire (50amp direct burial from the house to the garage, as well as wire for outlets, lights)
Sub panel
Direct burial cat6 network cable.
Likely things I am forgetting, but I think that gets me a roof, doors and electric!! At that point, it'll just be nice things like a security camera (although I already have some on the house, that anyone who comes from the front of the yard would go past on the way to the garage. shelving, work benches etc.
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Limb is down and chopped up into some firewood for me, as well as some larger log pieces that I am hoping to use as stools to sit around a fire pit.
Block and other material is scheduled for delivery this week, but it keeps getting bumped as they apparently have no drivers. :banghead:
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I'll probably pick one up at some point to keep a stash of firewood, but I'm not getting one to try and get this limb down.
If you don't intend to use a chainsaw a lot, Dewalt makes a 16 inch 60 volt chainsaw that works really well.
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Finally!! Got some block delivered, here's hoping to see some speedy progress now with the weather getting warmer and materials here.
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