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Less than three weeks to nationwide riots....
Change my mind.
Honestly, I think whatever happens on election night - clear winner, clear loser, or ambiguous haze to be fought in court for weeks (or more likely months) - we're likely to see major rioting in a few cities (I'm sure we can all name them already) and moderate rioting in a whole lot of others.
The only way to prevent this, in my opinion, is a massive turnout of police with crackdown on demonstrations, which will lead to additional problems all its own.
I'm certainly dreading this election for multiple reasons.
A win for Harris/Biden means a major push toward our complete disarmament, especially if there is a Democrat majority in the House and Senate. This would be the scariest thing I can think of for traditional freedom of Americans and signify a wild Slip'n'Slide ride into the pool of socialism to come.
A win for Trump will lead to widespread civil unrest as the leftist antagonizers go all all out in their attempt to bring down our Republic.
Maybe I'm being pessimistic, Lord knows I was wrong in the last election. I totally believed the polls, and of course, the MSM will never give the right accurate readings, not to mention in many areas people are just plain AFRAID to "come out" in public supporting conservative policies. This, to me, says more than anything - the fear of the left. If one has to be afraid one's life and family could be destroyed by the opposition, I think we're already in grave danger.
We've seen the Rule of Law reduced to absolutely nothing in recent months - as it pertains to protection of private property and persons, while seeing the .gov step its bootheel on the throat of freedom to run your business and live your life in what I find to be extremely Constitutionally-dubious mandates and closures.
And we've all just fallen in line, for the most part.
<sigh>
Doom and gloom, I know, I know. I'm just a bit morose this morning, I guess. Scared to see the world my son may have to grow up in.
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Nobody is taking your guns.
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ca90ss
Nobody is taking your guns.
You should try and keep up. The democrats #1 priority is to get rid of the 2nd amendment rights. It has been for a long time. That's not debatable. They've told us this for a long time. The democrats that ran for the dem nomination this year even said so so we don't have to wonder about that. Just after the covid outbreak was happening and they were talking about shutting everything down the gun shops were so overcrowded there were lines of people outside waiting to get in. I thought what the hell, are these people crazy? What do they think is going to happen, a civil war? Do they think we're suddenly going to lose our 2nd amendment? I thought they were crazy. Turns out they were right. Look at how fast we have lost so many rights in just the past 10 months and then think what will most likely happen if Biden wins.
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Did Obama take your guns?
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ca90ss
Did Obama take your guns?
Nope but they tried like hell to do as much as they could. All it takes is a few more crazy elected officials to sway the balance
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Every time there’s a Democrat in office you guys swear they’re going to take my guns. Still have a closet full of them and I live in one of the worst states for gun owners. Hell, going to pick up another one Saturday.
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jettyman
You should try and keep up. The democrats #1 priority is to get rid of the 2nd amendment rights. It has been for a long time. That's not debatable. They've told us this for a long time. The democrats that ran for the dem nomination this year even said so so we don't have to wonder about that. Just after the covid outbreak was happening and they were talking about shutting everything down the gun shops were so overcrowded there were lines of people outside waiting to get in. I thought what the hell, are these people crazy? What do they think is going to happen, a civil war? Do they think we're suddenly going to lose our 2nd amendment? I thought they were crazy. Turns out they were right. Look at how fast we have lost so many rights in just the past 10 months and then think what will most likely happen if Biden wins.
Look who has been in charge for the last 10 months. Why are the Dems (or whoever you think) at fault for things that are happening while this guy is in office? Cities have been on fire, cops have been "standing down" yet Biden is "weak" (per TV ads) wtf is repubs plan? Why aren't they doing anything to stop it? If they wanted to stop anything they would have by now but it's an election year and they are more interested in hoarding power than fixing any problem. Basically all politicians are this way. vote out every single person that is in office now.
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ca90ss
Every time there’s a Democrat in office you guys swear they’re going to take my guns. Still have a closet full of them and I live in one of the worst states for gun owners. Hell, going to pick up another one Saturday.
And every year it gets closer to happening. Look at how extreme the democratic party has gotten the past 4 years. It's actually a mainstream position in the democratic party now to outlaw certain guns. They recently tried banning ammunition since they couldn't ban guns outright. They even passed a bill allowing people to sue the gun manufacturers when a crazy person uses a gun to shoot someone...if you want a semi-automatic rifle you better buy it now in case Biden wins.
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Notloudenuf
Look who has been in charge for the last 10 months. Why are the Dems (or whoever you think) at fault for things that are happening while this guy is in office? Cities have been on fire, cops have been "standing down" yet Biden is "weak" (per TV ads) wtf is repubs plan? Why aren't they doing anything to stop it? If they wanted to stop anything they would have by now but it's an election year and they are more interested in hoarding power than fixing any problem. Basically all politicians are this way. vote out every single person that is in office now.
Who do you think has been committing all the violence? It sure as hell hasn't been the republicans. The republicans have done something about it. It's not happening in republican led cities. The democratic leaders in these cities have refused federal help. Have you been sleeping under a rock somewhere?? Wake up
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None of the politicians are truly on the side of the people and freedom.
Yes, Biden has explicitly said he wants to take away guns, at least some of them. Recall the "Bingo" comment about the NRA, recall him talking to Beto in the cafe telling him he "needs" him to help him implement his policies. He practically told Beto he was going to be his new gun czar.
Every Democrat out there is in favor of additional restrictions on firearms.
Look at Biden's position paper - Biden brags incessantly about the Brady bill and the "assault weapons ban" which he claims. Biden supports holding firearms manufacturers responsible for the misuse and illegal acts of purchasers of their products. If you intentionally ram your car into a Starbucks, is GM or Ford responsible? How about if you fly a Cessna into a school with intent, and there is NO failure on the part of the aircraft? Should the company be liable for your actions? Absolutely not! But this is EXACTLY what Biden and the left is pushing for - an end-around on the 2nd Amendment, driving manufacturers out of business by making it so expensive no one can afford to buy their product.
Biden also plans new weapon bans, magazine bans, etc. Plainly stated on his own website. How about blatant lies and misleading statements? Like this one -
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Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It’s wrong.
Really? So... there's a federal law that ALLOWS the hunting of ducks. There are also numerous state and federal laws that BAN the murder of children. So... how are children fair game to hunters? Oh, they're not? Well then, what in the world is he talking about? Is this a blatant lie or is this misdirection? It's not hyperbole, it's a blatant lie. This is the kind of BS we're supposed to be too stupid to see through??? "Clap for that, you stupid bastards!" RIGHT?
Requiring background checks on private sales. How do you accomplish that? You CAN'T, unless you require all weapons to be registered. Federally.
Eliminate the 3 day wait - if the system can't approve you, you can't buy a gun. Period. No reasonable time limit on the government to restrict your right to own a firearm - just like New Jersey, which has numerous cases where people needed a firearm for protection and the state sat on their applications, sometimes with deadly results.
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Biden will enact legislation to prohibit all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, and gun parts.
Can't buy a single item online for a firearm. What the hell is this other than an effort to restrict the access of ANYONE to firearms or firearms-related products? It's already illegal to buy a gun online, it HAS to be shipped to a dealer to be transferred to a buyer. Apparently that's not enough, if you want a scope, a box of specialty ammo or a new set of grips for your .45, they want you to have to go to a gun shop to get it.
F them.
Tell me the left doesn't have any plans to restrict the 2nd Amendment and I'll call you a bald-faced liar.
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Notloudenuf
vote out every single person that is in office now.
The only problem with this is that there aren't enough GOOD people who are willing to sacrifice their lives to spend their time in Washington cleaning up the mess.
I wouldn't throw my hat in the ring, just so I can be vilified by the left and have every single ex-girlfriend I've ever boinked coming out telling the world what a piece of shit I was. For what? I'd get 2 weeks into it and flip them all the bird and walk away.
Someone once said anyone who WANTS to run for president of the United States is automatically not qualified. I can see some truth in that statment.
Serving your country should be a sacrifice, not a ticket to millions.
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jettyman
Nope but they tried like hell to do as much as they could. All it takes is a few more crazy elected officials to sway the balance
So far, Trump has taken more gun rights than Obama. So when exactly are they taking my guns? I want to mark my calendar because I've been hearing this same thing my entire life.
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ca90ss
So far, Trump has taken more gun rights than Obama. So when exactly are they taking my guns? I want to mark my calendar because I've been hearing this same thing my entire life.
Ask the Australians or British if they plan on announcing a date when it will happen.
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The Australians are going to take our guns away? Am I going to be ambushed by a kangaroo or something? Koala hiding in my closet going to take my guns when I'm not looking?
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ca90ss
The Australians are going to take our guns away? Am I going to be ambushed by a kangaroo or something? Koala hiding in my closet going to take my guns when I'm not looking?
Hmm, I doubt it but your elected official that might be president soon sure would do her best to get them. May be she'll ask the australians how they did it.
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Absolutely the ONLY reason Obama (and Uncle Joe) DIDN'T take away gun rights is because they couldn't fearmonger enough support to do so. Obama came out MANY times openly stating he wanted more restrictions on firearm ownership and transfers. Just because they COULDN'T doesn't mean they didn't WANT to and didn't TRY to.
Failure to enact policies removing freedoms does not equate to being a good guy, NOR to being a 2nd Amendment friend or advocate.
Don't get it twisted, I don't like The Donald's position on gun restrictions, either - he is the reason bumpstocks were banned by the 'stroke of a pen' instead of any kind of a law being passed by appropriately elected representatives. He (and the f***king cowards at the NRA) got together and bargained away more of our rights, allowing the unelected officials at the BATFE to make an accessory an illegal item and criminalize millions of Americans who purchased and used legal items in a responsible manner.
F*** them, too.
Choosing to vote for one of the lesser of two evils doesn't equate to being happy about it, and it doesn't make either of those evils right.
The Donald is not a true 2nd Amendment friend, either. That doesn't take away from the evil Obama and Uncle Cracker Joe tried to implement.
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The only reason Biden might succeed is that Trump pushed everything so far right that we might take an equally retarded swing to the hard left but with a 6-3 conservative supreme court I seriously doubt any laws will hold up.
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ca90ss
The only reason Biden might succeed is that Trump pushed everything so far right that we might take an equally retarded swing to the hard left but with a 6-3 conservative supreme court I seriously doubt any laws will hold up.
Trump is not that far right. Tell me what policies of his are far right. And don't say the wall or vetting people more closely from countries with high terrorist activities. He got that list from Obama. Come up with some far right policies. And be glad he appointed Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett. You can't find 3 better people.
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tRidiot
Absolutely the ONLY reason Obama (and Uncle Joe) DIDN'T take away gun rights is because they couldn't fearmonger enough support to do so. Obama came out MANY times openly stating he wanted more restrictions on firearm ownership and transfers. Just because they COULDN'T doesn't mean they didn't WANT to and didn't TRY to.
Failure to enact policies removing freedoms does not equate to being a good guy, NOR to being a 2nd Amendment friend or advocate.
Don't get it twisted, I don't like The Donald's position on gun restrictions, either - he is the reason bumpstocks were banned by the 'stroke of a pen' instead of any kind of a law being passed by appropriately elected representatives. He (and the f***king cowards at the NRA) got together and bargained away more of our rights, allowing the unelected officials at the BATFE to make an accessory an illegal item and criminalize millions of Americans who purchased and used legal items in a responsible manner.
F*** them, too.
Choosing to vote for one of the lesser of two evils doesn't equate to being happy about it, and it doesn't make either of those evils right.
The Donald is not a true 2nd Amendment friend, either. That doesn't take away from the evil Obama and Uncle Cracker Joe tried to implement.
I'm curious, other than outlawing bump stocks what has Trump done that you don't agree with with regard to the 2nd amendment? Seems to me he's more supportive than any president we've had for decades.
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You should be a comedian.
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ca90ss
You should be a comedian.
I'll think about it. Until then I'll be waiting for your Trump far right policies
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Why would I waste my time with you? It's obvious you're incapable of forming an original thought beyond liberals=bad and conservatives=perfect so why bother?
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ca90ss
Why would I waste my time with you? It's obvious you're incapable of forming an original thought beyond liberals=bad and conservatives=perfect so why bother?
That's what I thought. Typical comment with people like you. I just said show me a far right policy and if true I'd agree. But you can't. You're hatred blinds you. You've never heard me say conservatives are perfect.
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That's wonderful, tell me more.
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jettyman
Trump is not that far right. Tell me what policies of his are far right. And don't say the wall or vetting people more closely from countries with high terrorist activities. He got that list from Obama. Come up with some far right policies. And be glad he appointed Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett. You can't find 3 better people.
I'm willing to bet that Kavanaugh is more liberal than you think he is.
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Euphonic
I'm willing to bet that Kavanaugh is more liberal than you think he is.
You mean like Roberts? That wouldn't bother me one bit. He's a good guy and fair minded and incredibly qualified. We should all dislike activist judges. Ginsburgh was def that. A lot to admire about her but her judicial record is not one of them
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The left are called snowflakes yet the right seem to be scared of everything (very normal to be scared of things you don't understand and of change).
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Niebur3
The left are called snowflakes yet the right seem to be scared of everything (very normal to be scared of things you don't understand and of change).
I don't get with the names and all that but I think a more accurate description is conservatives aren't scared but willing to speak up for our rights as laid out in the constitution and bill or rights and the desire from the left to take them away
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^^Seems like the the left do that as well, but you guys don't like it much. Interesting when the shoe is on the other foot, or when a topic of interest is important to you.
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jettyman
I don't get with the names and all that but I think a more accurate description is conservatives aren't scared but willing to speak up for our rights as laid out in the constitution and bill or rights and the desire from the left to take them away
Unless we're talking about the Patriot Act and then it was Conservatives infringing on Constitutional rights.
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Euphonic
Unless we're talking about the Patriot Act and then it was Neoconservatives infringing on Constitutional rights.
FIFY
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The Donald was traditionally anti-gun and changed his stance when he decided to get into politics. I don't trust him, he has always been for expediency, whatever he needs that works. He has spoken out in favor of guns and in opposition of specific guns at different times. Either way, the point is, he is at least paying lip service to protecting the 2nd Amendment, whereas Uncle Cracker Joe and the left are blatantly speaking out against gun ownership in general and gun owners.
They're politicians - The Donald has been a politician for years, and he has played both ends of the spectrum for years. Not until he decided to throw his hat into the ring did he 'become' a conservative, and he's donated money and curried favor from every politician on The Hill for decades. He admits that freely.
Again, it's the lesser of evils, but still an evil. All we can do is what we can do, and I'll tell you Hillary gave me the heebie-jeebies, I honestly believe that woman is evil. Like, she is really, truly evil. Idiots like Biden - ugh. 47 years in the swamp and he wants us to believe he's suddenly the one to change ANYTHING???? WHAT. THE. HELL. EVER.
Eff 'em all, I say. Honestly, I think the downhill slide has begun and all we are going to do is speed it up or slow it down - there's not going to be any great revival/awakening that turns the course of our country around. History repeats itself, and America is well on the way.
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Grinder
FIFY
You did? The 213 Republicans (and 144 Democrats) that voted "Yes" were all Neoconservatives?
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Euphonic
The 213 Republicans .... that voted "Yes" were all Neoconservatives?
Yes. That would appear to be self-evident.
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Grinder
Yes. That would appear to be self-evident.
Well, some of them are still in office. Did you support the Patriot Act? Nevermind, it doesn't matter. The point being that both major political parties are willing to use the Constitution as toilet paper when it suits them.
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Euphonic
Well, some of them are still in office. Did you support the Patriot Act?
I'd argue there's not a single conservative in office - nothing but lying politicians. No, I absolutely did/do not support the so called Patriot Act.
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tRidiot
... Someone once said anyone who WANTS to run for president of the United States is automatically not qualified. .....
:hello:
I've said as much on a number of occasions.
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Euphonic
Well, some of them are still in office. Did you support the Patriot Act? Nevermind, it doesn't matter. The point being that both major political parties are willing to use the Constitution as toilet paper when it suits them.
Sad, but undeniably true.
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While I particularly feel for parents right now, and I can’t imagine how I'd feel if I had children of my own, the fact is none of us knows what will happen, and things might turn out far better than we think.
One thing is for sure, the corporate mainstream media and the powers that be are playing on our emotions. They feed on our anger, fear, apathy… and they utterly depend on our division.
Now, more than ever, we all depend on each other to remain calm, cool and collected.
Small acts of empathy and kindness go a very long way. :)
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