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PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
Seeing as real product reviews in hobby are getting harder to find as more publications close down or refocus I decided I would post specs and links to the one car audio mag that is still going. I'm thinking about keeping this thread dedicated to amp reviews (mono, 2-channel, 4-channel, more) but if Al would prefer me to keep all the PASMAG info in a single thread I'm cool with that as well. I claim no authorship for any of these reviews, I'm posting them here to make a simple archive of "current" product reviews for any users of visitors of the site.
Lets start off with two new offerings from Clarion.
First The Clarion XC6410 2/3/4 channel amp:
Attachment 958
Power @ 4-Ohm |
85w × 4 |
Power @ 2-Ohm |
125w × 4 |
Bridged Power @ 4-Ohm |
250w × 2 |
Number of Channels |
4/3/2 |
MOS-FET Power Supp |
● |
2-Ohm Stable |
● |
Independent Front/Rear Bass Extender Control |
● |
Adjustable -12db/Oct.High/Low Pass Crossover, 50Hz-500Hz (×10, 500Hz – 5kHz) |
● |
Nickel Plated Connectors; RCA/ Speaker/ Power |
● |
Dimensions (W × H × D) (Inches) |
8-3/4 (W) × 2-3/16 (H) × 6-7/8 (D) |
Pasmag's full review:
Manufacturers Rated Power
85 W x 4 @ 4 Ω
125 W x 4 @ 2 Ω
250 W x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@12.6 V Battery:
68 W x 4 @ 4 Ω
113 W x 4 @ 2 Ω
241 W x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@ 14.4 V Battery
150 W x 4 @ 4 Ω
250 W x 4 @ 2 Ω
318 W x 2 @ 4 Ω
Maximum Current at full power, lowest rated impedance 46.3 A
Second the Clarion XC1410
Attachment 959
Power @ 4-Ohm |
50W × 4 |
Power @ 2-Ohm |
75W × 4 |
Number of Channels |
4 |
Power MOSFET Switching Transistors |
● |
2-Ohm Stable |
● |
Selectable (60Hz, 90Hz, FLAT) |
● |
4-Channel RCA Input |
● |
4-Channel High Level Input |
● |
4-Channel High Level Speaker Output |
● |
Dimensions (W × H × D) Inches |
7-1/8 (W) × 1-3/8 (H) × 2-3/4 (D) |
Pasmag's full review
Manufacturers Rated Power
50 x 4 @ 4 Ohms
75 x 4 @ 2 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N@ 12.6 V Battery
36 x 4 @ 4 Ohms
60 x 4 @ 2 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N@ 14. 4V Battery
51 x 4 @ 4 Ohms
83 x 4 @ 2 Ohms
Maximum Current @ full power 2 ohms per ch. 29.6 A
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Rockford Fosgate P600x4
Attachment 960
Rated Power
(RMS Continuous Power): |
75 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm
150 Watts x 4 @ 2-Ohm
300 Watts x 2 @ 4-Ohm Bridged |
Total Power
(Sum of Rated Power): |
600 Watts RMS |
Dynamic Power
(PVC/PowerCube® Measurement): |
129 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohms 0° Res
211 Watts x 4 @ 2-Ohms 0° Res |
Efficiency (average): |
68% @ 4-Ohm |
Crossover Controls: |
Front High-Pass (HP): 50Hz-250Hz 12dB/octave Butterworth
Front Low-Pass (LP): 50-250Hz 12dB/octave Butterworth
Rear High-Pass (HP): 50Hz-250Hz 12dB/octave Butterworth
Rear Low-Pass (LP): 50-250Hz 12dB/octave Butterworth |
Tone Controls: |
Front Punch EQ2 Bass: 0dB to +18dB @ 45Hz and/or
Front Punch EQ2 Treble: 0dB to +12.5dB @ 12kHz
Rear Punch EQ2 Bass: 0dB to +18dB @ 45Hz and/or
Rear Punch EQ2 Treble: 0dB to +12.5dB @ 12kHz
Function depends upon LP/AP/HP switch position |
Signal Input: |
Hi/Low level: 2 RCA pair |
Signal Output: |
Low level: 1 RCA pair |
Power Input Connector: |
Captive C-Clamp |
Speaker Output Connector: |
Captive C-Clamp |
Speaker Wire Gauge: |
8 AWG to 18 AWG |
Heat Sink Type: |
Cast aluminum |
Remote Controls: |
Optional Punch Level Control (PLC2) Ready |
Visual Indicators: |
Power/Protect/Thermal LED
Power/Protect/Thermal LED
Input Clip LED |
Circuit Topology Class: |
Class-A/B |
Frequency Response: |
20Hz to 20kHz +/- 1.0dB |
Shipping Weight: |
12.8 Lbs.
(5.80 Kg.) |
Dimensions (HxWxL): |
2.38 x 7.76 x 13.28 (in)
6.05 x 19.71 x 33.73 (cm) |
Pasmag's full review
Measured Performance Specifications
Manufacturers Rated Power
75 x 4 @ 4 Ohms
150 x 4 @ 2 Ohms
300 x 2 @ 4 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 12.6 V Battery
97 x 4 @ 4 Ohms
156 x 4 @ 2 Ohms
318 x 2 @ 4 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@ 14.4 V Battery
127 x 4 @ 4 Ohms
206 x 4 @ 2 Ohms
420 x 2 @ 4 Ohms
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance: 89.1 A
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I think it's cool seeing manufacturer's rated power versus actual power. I think having individual threads for each category would be the way to go.
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An old one (2009) but well worth posting: Soundstream REF4-760
http://www.pasmag.com/images/stories...19723_opt.jpeg
Channels |
4 |
RMS Power @ 4Ω, 14.4V |
4 x 115 |
RMS Power @ 2Ω, 14.4V |
4 x 155 |
RMS Power @ 4Ω Bridged, 14.4V |
2 x 380 |
Total Harmonic Distortion (4Ω power) |
0.02% |
Frequency Response |
15-50kHz |
Signal-to-Noise Ratio (4Ω power) |
102dB |
Damping Factor (100Hz, 4Ω) |
>3000 |
Dimensions:
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20.5"l x 2.25"h x 9.875"w |
Ch. 1&2 HPF/Hawkins/Subsonic
(12dB Slope / 0-10dB Hawkins Boost) |
15Hz-4kHz |
Channels 3&4 HPF (12dB Slope) |
15Hz-4kHz |
Channels 3&4 LPF (12dB Slope) |
50Hz-4kHz |
External Fuse Required |
80 A |
Pasmag's full review
Manufacturers Rated Power
115 x 4 @ 4 Ω
155 x 4 @ 2 Ω
380 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Measured Performance Specifications:
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 12.6V
85 x 4 @ 4 Ω
122 x 4 @ 2 Ω
247 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 14.4V
113 x 4 @ 4 Ω
160 x 4 @ 2 Ω
324 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Maximum Current @ full power 2 ohms per ch: 74.9A
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It is neat to see exactly how over/under rated some of these amps are. The RF Punch just blows the factory specs out of the water at 12 volts and even though the SS REF4.760 was a little overrated those specs are still pretty impressive and not off by too much.
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I'm betting in the old days, Soundstream would have been way underrated.
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They very well may have been, though I would like to see a second look at the 4.760 seeing as that review was before/ right at launch and may have been a pre production model.
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Digital Designs M4A monoblock amp
http://www.pasmag.com/images/15.04/c...r_top-side.jpg
Channels |
1 |
Cont Power at 1 Ohm |
5,200W x 1ch @ 12v, 7000W x 1ch @ 14.v |
Damping Factor |
>150 |
Dimensions (US) |
27.63" x 9.13" x 2.5" |
Dimensions (Metric) |
70.17 x 23.19 x 6.35 cm |
Dynamic Power |
9500W |
Efficiency Thru Output |
87% |
Input Sensitivity |
0.15v - 5v |
Shipping Weight |
36 lbs / 16.33 kg |
Wire Gauge (Power and Ground) |
2 x 0 AWG |
Wire Gauge (Speaker Output) |
10 AWG |
Pasmag's Full Review
MEASURED PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS
Manufacturers Rated Power
Not stated x 1 @ 4 Ohms
Not stated x 1 @ 2 Ohms
3200 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N@ 12.6 V Battery
1193 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
2223 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
3809 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N@ 14.4 V Battery
1558 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
2897 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
4955 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance: 422.4 A
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I know this guy wouldn't be the choice of most people on here but I've heard conflicting things about RE since the US Amps buyout (particularly about the new USX line) and though I would post this for anyone interested. It's not terrible but it sure isn't good.
RE Audio USX4250:
http://www.reaudio.com/products/1-USX/USX%204250/1m.jpg
- Class: AB
- Channel: 4 CH
- Dynamic Power: 1200 W
- RMS Power (4Ω@14.4V): 100 W x 4
- RMS Power (2Ω@14.4V): 150 W x 4
- RMS Bridged Power (4Ω): 300 W x 2
- THD: <0.05 %
- SN Ration: 85 dB
- Frequency Response: 20 Hz ~ 30 KHz
- Crossover Frequency(Low Pass): 40 ~ 250 Hz
- Crossover Frequency(High Pass): 40 ~ 1 KHz
- Input Sensitivity: 0.2 ~ 8 V
- Heatsink Size(WxLxH) [inches]: 9.65 x 15 x 2.05
- Heatsink Size(WxLxH) [mm] : 245.11 x 381 x 52.07
- Fuse Rating: 30 A x 3
Pasmag full review
Measured Performance Specifications
Manufacturers Rated Power
100 x 4 @ 4 ohms
150 x 4 @ 2 ohms
300 x 2 @ 4 ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 12.6 V Battery
63 x 4 @ 4 ohms
95 x 4 @ 2 ohms
194 x 2 @ 4 ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 14.4 V Battery
85 x 4 @ 4 ohms
129 x 4 @ 2 ohms
262 x 2 @ 4 ohms
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance: 65.3 A
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I'd love to see one of these for my amp.
Phoenix Gold Ti1600.5
Sent from my Springfield XD with love!
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There must be a mistake there somewhere in the official wattage quotes from Soundstream. There's no way they quote 4*155W@2Ohm and then 2*380@4Ohm bridged. One of them must be false, probably the latter one.
Edit: ok, according to their webpage it's 4*160 and 2*380, still off. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark...
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
n_olympios
There must be a mistake there somewhere in the official wattage quotes from Soundstream. There's no way they quote 4*155W@2Ohm and then 2*380@4Ohm bridged. One of them must be false, probably the latter one.
Edit: ok, according to their webpage it's 4*160 and 2*380, still off. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark...
In the review he stated that it was probably a misprint, which is entirely possible.
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I'll see what I can find for more amp reviews, though sadly it looks like some of the ones I wanted to link to don't list measured power ratings. Maybe I'll start the component and sub woofer thread next.
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Here is another piece of equipment that will most likely fly under the radar.
Sony XM-GS400 Amplifier
http://www.crutchfield.com.edgesuite...GS400-F-1.jpeg
Rated Output:
70W x 4 (20Hz-20kHz, 1% THD, at 4 Ohms, 14.4V)
80W x 4 (20Hz-20kHz, 1% THD, at 2 Ohms, 14.4V)
160W x 2 (20Hz-20kHz, 1% THD, at 4 Ohms, 14.4V)
Speaker Impedance : 2-8 Ohm stereo, 4-8 Ohms mono
Speaker Terminal Type : Gold plated terminals
Audio:
Band : Low Pass Filter: 50-300 HZ, -12dB/oct
High Pass Filter: 50-300 HZ, -12dB/oct
Circuit System : OTL Output Transformerless Circuit Pulse Power Supply
Frequency Response : 10-100kHz (+0/-3 dB)
Harmonic Distortion : 0.05% (1kHz)
Impedance : 2-8 Ohm stereo, 4-8 Ohms mono
Input Level : 0.3 - 6.0V (RCA input)
1.2 - 12.0V (High Level Input)
Low Boost : 0-10dB (40Hz)
Noise Level : 93 dBA
Level Control : High Level Input: 3.0 - 12V
Power Supply : OTL Output Transformerless Circuit Pulse Power Supply
Signal Circuitry : 6-70Hz Variable -12 dB/Octave Subsonic filter
Inputs and Outputs:
Audio In : RCA Pin Jacks
High Level input connector
Audio Out : Speaker Terminals
Input(s) : RCA Pin Jacks
High Level input connector
Line Level Input(s) : RCA pin jacks
Output(s) : Speaker Terminals
RCA Audio Input(s) : Pin Jacks: 0.3 - 6V
Power:
Current Drain : At rated output: 30 Amp (at 4 Ohms)
Input Voltage : 10.5-16V Power Supply Voltage
Internal Power Supply : OTL Output Transformerless Circuit
Pulse Power Supply
Weights and Measurements:
Dimensions (Approx) Depth : 8"
Dimensions (Approx) Height : 2 1/8"
Dimensions (Approx) Width : 10 3/4"
Dimensions (Approx.) : 10 3/4" x 2 1/8" x 8" (272 x 51 x 202 mm)
Weight (Approx.) : 6 lb (2.7 kg)
PASMAG Full Review
MEASURED PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS
Manufacturers Rated Power
70 W x 4 @ 4Ω
80 W x 4 @ 2Ω
160 W x 2 @ 4Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@ 12.6 V Battery
62 W x 4 @ 4Ω
89 W x 4 @ 2Ω
182 W x 2 @ 4Ω
Actual Measured Power@ 1.0% THD+N@ 14.4 V Battery
83 W x 4 @ 4Ω
118 W x 4 @ 2Ω
240 W x 2 @ 4Ω
Maximum Current at full power, lowest rated impedance 62.2 A
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Lets look at some high end power.
Helix A4 Competition by BRAX
Attachment 965
Channels |
4 |
Class |
A |
Rated Power (RMS continuous power) |
85 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohms
150 Watts x 4 @ 2-Ohms
270 Watts x 2 @ 4-Ohms Bridged
395 Watts x 2 @ 2-Ohms Bridged |
Dynamic Power
(PVC/PowerCube® Measurement) |
150 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohms
250 Watts x 4 @ 2-Ohms
450 Watts x 2 @ 4-Ohms Bridged
650 Watts x 2 @ 2-Ohms Bridged |
Bridgeabel |
Yes |
Crossover Controls |
Front Channels
Position 1: 15Hz - 90Hz Low Pass or High Pass
Position 2: 90Hz - 800Hz Low Pass or High Pass
Position 3: 600Hz - 7kHz Low Pass or High Pass
Rear Channels
Position 1: 15Hz - 90Hz Low Pass or High Pass
Position 2: 90Hz - 800Hz Low Pass or High Pass
Position 3: 600Hz - 7kHz Low Pass or High Pass |
Tone Controls |
Bass Boost: 0dB to 9dB
Boost Center Frequencies: 30Hz to 120Hz |
Frequency Response |
20Hz - 20kHz +/-3dB |
Circuit Topology Class |
Class A |
Dimensions:
|
1.38" x 17" x 9.45" (35mm x 240mm x 432mm) |
PASMAG Full Review
Measured Performance Specifications:
Manufacturers Rated Power
85 x 4 @ 4 Ω
150 x 4 @ 2 Ω
330 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@ 12.6V Battery
82 x 4 @ 4 Ω
126 x 4 @ 2 Ω
256 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@ 14.4V Battery
91 x 4 @ 4 Ω
165 x 4 @ 2 Ω
333 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance >90A
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Now back to the world of more affordable Hi-Fi car amps.
JL Audio XD500/3
Attachment 966
Channels |
3 |
Class |
D |
Rated Continuous (RMS) Power @ 14.4 V |
Main Channels @ 4 Ω 75 W RMS x 2
Main Channels @ 2 Ω 100 W RMS x 2
Main Channels - Bridged @ 4Ω 200 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 4 Ω 180 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 3 Ω 240 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 2 Ω 300 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 1.5 Ω N/A |
Rated Continuous (RMS) Power @ 12.5 V |
Main Channels @ 4 Ω 60 W RMS x 2
Main Channels @ 2 Ω 90 W RMS x 2
Main Channels - Bridged @ 4Ω 180 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 4 Ω 180 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 3 Ω 240 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 2 Ω 300 W RMS x 1
Subwoofer Channel @ 1.5 Ω N/A |
Frequency Response (Main Channels) |
12 Hz - 22 kHz (+0, -1dB) |
Frequency Response (Subwoofer Channel) |
10 Hz - 1 kHz (+0, -1dB) |
S/N Ratio, referred to highest rated power (Main Channels) |
>104 dB below rated power (A-weighted, 20 Hz - 20 kHz noise bandwidth) |
S/N Ratio, referred to 1 W |
>84 dB (A-weighted, 20 Hz - 20 kHz noise bandwidth) |
Damping Factor @ 4 Ω |
>120 / 50 Hz |
amping Factor @ 2 Ω |
>60 / 50 Hz |
THD+N @ Rated Power (Main Channels) |
<1% @ 2 Ω per Ch. |
THD+N @ Rated Power (Subwoofer Channels) |
<1% @ 2 Ω per Ch. |
Dimensions: |
(H)2.05 in / 52 mm
(W)8.52 in / 216 mm
(D)7.09 in / 180 mm |
PASMAG Full Review
MEASURED PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS
Manufacturers Rated Power
75 W x 2 + 180 W x 1 @ 4 Ω
100 W x 2 + 300 W x 1 @ 2 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@ 12.6V Battery
75 W x 2 + 206 W x 1 @ 4 Ω
106 W x 2 + 375 W x 1 @ 2 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N@ 14.4V Battery
84 W x 2 + 204 W x 1 @ 4 Ω
106 W x 2 + 375 W x 1 @ 2 Ω
140 W x 2 + 393 W x 1 @ 2 Ω
Maximum Current at full power, lowest rated impedance: 60.2 A
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An amp I've heard quite a bit about both good and bad. The measured THD ratting scares me a little, that's a lot of noise to be injecting into your speakers.
Polk Audio PA660 Amplifier
Attachment 967
Channels |
4 |
Class |
AB |
RMS Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel NOT bridged @ 1 kHz) |
4 ohms 75 watts
2 ohms 85 watts |
RMS Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel bridged) |
4 ohms 200 watts |
Dynamic Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel NOT bridged @ 1 kHz) |
12 Hz - 22 kHz (+0, -1dB) |
Dynamic Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel NOT bridged) |
4 ohms 150 watts
2 ohms 170 watts |
Dynamic Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel bridged) |
4 ohms 300 watts |
Distortion at Rated Power |
0.9% THD |
Signal-to-noise (Referenced to rated power) |
75 dBA |
Frequency Response |
10Hz-30kHz |
Minimum Impedance Bridged |
4 ohms |
Minimum Impedance Not Bridge |
2 ohms |
Dimensions: |
Height: 2" (5.08cm)
Width: 13 1/4" (33.66cm)
Depth: 8 1/8" (20.64cm) |
PASMAG Full Review
Measured Performance Specifications:
Manufacturers Rated Power
75 x 4 @ 4 ?
85 x 4 @ 2 ?
150 x 2 @ 4 ?
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 12.6V Battery
52 x 4 @ 4 ?
70 x 4 @ 2 ?
141 x 2 @ 4 ?
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 14.4V Battery
70 x 4 @ 4 ?
93 x 4 @ 2 ?
187 x 2 @ 4 ?
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance: 51.5A
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Another Polk Amp and this one fairs quite a bit better under testing IMO, still not great but better.
Polk Audio PA D4000
Attachment 968
Channels |
4 |
Class |
D |
RMS Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel NOT bridged @ 1 kHz) |
4 ohms 125 watts
2 ohms 200 watts |
RMS Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel bridged) |
4 ohms 400 watts |
Dynamic Power at 14.4V
(Watts per channel NOT bridged @ 1 kHz) |
12 Hz - 22 kHz (+0, -1dB) |
Signal-to-noise (Referenced to rated power) |
105 dBA |
Frequency Response |
20Hz-20kHz |
Minimum Impedance Bridged |
4 ohms |
Minimum Impedance Not Bridge |
2 ohms |
Cabinet Dimensions: |
Height: 1 13/16" (4.60cm)
Width: 10 15/16" (27.78cm)
Depth: 6 3/4" (17.14cm) |
PASMAG Full Review
Measured Performance Specifications:
Manufacturers Rated Power
125 x 4 @ 4 Ω
200 x 4 @ 2 Ω
400 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 12.6V Battery
105 x 4 @ 4 Ω
169 x 4 @ 2 Ω
346 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 14.4V Battery
140 x 4 @ 4 Ω
221 x 4 @ 2 Ω
448 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance: 86.1A
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I believe that's the same amp as the PPI Phantom 900.4 too.
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
Here we have the Polk PA D4000's cousin the PPI Phantom 900.4. Though being cut from the same "cloth" as it were doesn't mean they are identical.
Attachment 972
Channels |
4 |
Class |
D |
RMS Power at 4 ohms |
145 x 4 |
RMS Power at 2 ohms |
225 x 4 |
RMS Power 4ω Bridged |
450 x 2 |
Cabinet Dimensions: |
(W) 6.5" x (H) 2" x (D) 9.25" |
PASMAG Full Review
Measured Performance Specifications
Manufacturers Rated Power
145 x 4 @ 4 Ω
225 x 4 @ 2 Ω
450 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 12.6V Battery
113 x 4 @ 4 Ω
179 x 4 @ 2 Ω
363 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 14.4V Battery
150 x 4 @ 4 Ω
235 x 4 @ 2 Ω
477 x 2 @ 4 Ω
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance: 86.1A
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
I'd say that's close enough to call it a wash. Pick the one you like the looks of :p
Sent from a rotary telephone
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
benny
I'd say that's close enough to call it a wash. Pick the one you like the looks of :p
Sent from a rotary telephone
The PPI is almost $100 cheaper, so I have to say the PPI is a bit more impressive. Though I do agree, either one it pretty good.
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Now for an amp from a manufacturer that has a long history of producing massive amounts of power but in recent years has been looked at with some apprehension.
Orion XTR3700.1D Amplifier. Orion really needs to update their site since the recent buyout, seeing as everything they currently list is either out of production or being replaced.
Attachment 1015
Chanels |
1 |
Class |
D |
RMS Power Rating |
4 ohms: 1500 watts x 1 chan
2 ohms: 2500 watts x 1 chan
1 ohms: 3700 watts x 1 chan |
THD at Rated Power |
0.5% |
Dimensions |
9-5/16"D x 19-7/16"L x 2-1/2"H |
PASMAG Full Review
Measures Performance Specifications:
Manufacturers Rated Power
1500 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
2500 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
3700 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N and @ 12.6 V Battery
1310 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
2205 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
3192 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N and @ 14.4 V Battery
1703 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
2857 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
4090 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance: 413.6 A
Overall I have to say if this is what a current Orion Class D mono amp can do I want to see what their Class A/B 2 and 4 channels can do.
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
A 30% increase in wattage just by upping the input voltage by 1.8V! That's definitely not a regulated PSM. :D
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
You got that right, it's also something that's very inspiring to see from a brand that has seemingly been on a large downturn for the past decade.
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
I love the old school Orions, though never owned one myself. Let's hope these new models have good quality and no reliability issues.
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
It's been a while since I posted anything so...
Memphis Car Audio MJ1.2200 Amplifier
Attachment 1440
RMS POWER @ 4ohms |
550 X 1 |
RMS POWER @ 2ohms |
1100 X 1 |
RMS POWER @ 1ohm |
2200 X 1 |
THD% @ 4ohms |
.03% |
Frequency Response |
20Hz - 250kHz |
DIMENSIONS (7.77"d x 2.24"h x) |
20.6" |
FULL PASMAG REVIEW
Manufacturers Rated Power
800 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
1500 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
2200 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N @ 12.6 V Battery
735 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
1290 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
1947 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N @ 14.4 V Battery
960 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
1683 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
2600 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Maximum Current @ full power, lowest rated impedance 244.5 A
Never really been a Memphis Audio fan but I have to say this looks like a solid amp.
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A couple of pages back Fric said he'd like to see one for his Phoenix Gold Ti1600.5, sadly PASMAG hasn't reviewed it but they did review the Ti2 800.1. Let's see what kind of amp PG is putting their name on these days.
Phoenix Gold TI2 800.1
Attachment 1441
Class |
D |
Channels |
1/Mono |
POWER RATING at 2Ω |
600 Watts x 1 |
POWER RATING at 1Ω |
800 Watts x 1 |
SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO |
>90dB |
LOW PASS RANGE |
30Hz to 200Hz |
LOW PASS SLOPE |
24dB/Octave |
SUBSONIC RANGE |
10Hz to 55Hz |
SUBSONIC FILTER SLOPE |
48dB/Octave |
DIMENSIONS |
11.7" L x 7.1" W x 2.0" H |
FULL PASMAG REVIEW
Measured Performance Specifications
Manufacturers Rated Power
400 x 1 @ 4 Ohms (not listed on site)
600 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
800 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N @ 12.6 V Battery
380 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
641 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
920 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0 % THD+N @ 14.4 V Battery
496 x 1 @ 4 Ohms
847 x 1 @ 2 Ohms
1230 x 1 @ 1 Ohms
Maximum Efficiency at full 2 ohms power per ch. 86.3 %
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I wonder if that's the same board that's in my 1600.5. Can't imagine it would be much different.
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Isn't yours the previous gen Ti? Those were hybrid Class A/B and D (channels 1-4 were Class A/B and the sub channel was Class D) so the sub section is probably the same.
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That's what I'm thinking. It'd be nice to find out I'm getting 1200 watts. I need to do a clamp test.
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I'd be interested to see the results.
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My amp is out of the car right now. Me and my buddy are gonna try and clamp it later this week.
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Since this thread is kinda dead, I think I'll add some more real-life clamps from a completely independent source:
http://amp-performance.de/106-von-Alpine-bis-Zapco.html
Hundreds of 'em. :)
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^none of my amps are listed. :shrug:
But it was interesting to see there is an Mc Hammer amp. :carlton:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
BaasTurbo
I've been kinda lazy on posting, and PASMAG is stingy with what they post on their site.
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Re: PASMAG Amplifier Reviews.
Yeah, I understand. Just throwing it out there, some interesting stuff in there. ;) Check out the PG M-series for one. I love those, have an M25 myself somewhere, but they're not as underrated as some might think.
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I have an M25 which I recapped the power supply in, and also an M100 that needs somebody better than me to fix it :(
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Recapping, that's up next for my M25.
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looks like PASMAG has gotten around to the Audio part of their title.
Here is the mono block in the Clarion XC6 line the XC6120, it's so new it's not even on clarions site yet.
Attachment 3552
PASMAG Full Review
Rated Power 4Ω |
330 watts |
Rated Power2Ω |
650 watts |
Frequency Response |
13-500Hz |
Max Efficiency at 2Ω |
87.6% |
Manufacturer Rated Power:
330 x 1 @ 4Ω
650 x 1 @ 2Ω
Measured Performance Specifications:
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 12.6V
284 x 1 @ 4Ω
502 x 1 @ 2Ω
Actual Measured Power @ 1.0% THD+N @ 14.4V
372 x 1 @ 4Ω
660 x 1 @ 2Ω
Maximum Current @ full power 2 ohms per ch: 56.2 A
Maximum Measured THD @ Rated Power: 0.032%