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Started a couple weeks ago, haven't made much progress between the weather & kids. Living out here in "corn country" don't help either, takes a week to get anything you can't happen to run across at farm supply or auto parts store lol
So far I have:
DEH-80PRS
Boston GT-2200 & GT-2300
JBL MS-62C (nice for around the $150 I paid, not so much so if they where more)
0 & 4 gauge Stinger HPM
2000 series Stinger interconnects
Stinger 12 gauge pro speaker wire
2- 0 gauge to 4- 4 gauge fused distribution block
STP Gold, Bomb, & SPL04 sound deadening
I've switched my Kenwood touchscreen dvd player for a 80prs. I didn't really use it for dvd's, & flip-outs are a bit dated anyway, just happened to have had it around from my old car.
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Didn't take any of the Pioneer, but it's in the same dash kit for now
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Started by removing stock door baffles
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Left piece is off the inside of the door panel, right is off the door. Factory speakers where mounted at an angle & forward from the grills on the door panel.
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Made a quick set of templates
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Measured twice, cut once :hmmmm:
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Went on deadening the doors while the glue on my first baffle dryed
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Single layer of STP Gold on the outer door skin, SPL04 ccf behind speaker openings & about 60% down the length of lower door
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STP Bomb over holes over 1/2" or so Gold on smaller holes
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I had some plastic signs sitting around so I used them. They're close to 1/8" thick, not the flimsy ones you usually see.
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Wrapped the cables for the latch & lock with SPL04 ccf. Laid a bead of seam sealer around the edge, & started laying on 3" overlapping strips of STP Gold
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Started getting dark so I got some help by the way of a little slave labor :wink:
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Got the doors knock out next morning, & 12 gauge speaker wire ran through boots for the 6 1/2's
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Pre-drilled screw holes & mounted speaker.
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Things have gone way to quickly & smoothly at this point. That can only mean it's time for Murphy to make an appearance!
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Looks good so far. What car is this?
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So when I put the door panel back on I saw that the surround was nearly touching the grill. I had only did one side so at least I had that going for me. Even though I'd thought to include the thickness of the mounting flange & deadener, & a little room for excursion, turns out I'd overlooked the surround :banghead:
Made two new, slightly shorter, baffles & sprayed them with some SEM black paint I had left from a old project
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Used some of the ccf to make seals around the baffles that'd press firmly against the door panel
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Zip-tied incase the adhesive gave out, ca glued at the seam. Panels went back on effortlessly & the speakers are now centered directly behind the factory grills. Sadly they can only be seen by shoving your face against them & using a flashlight. Oh well least I know it's centered in there :facepalm:
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Finished both doors with a layer of STP SPL04
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Got lucky & had a empty factory wire channel under the passenger side carpet! Just enough room for my 0 gauge in the driver side too, good day indeed!
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I'm not to good with a camera, sorry. I soldered, heat shrank, & techflex'd the wiring harness for my head unit but didn't think to take a picture at any point. Next time it comes out I'll try to remember
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Looks good so far. What car is this?
2002 Stratus Coupe, I hate the thing. My cousin works at a local dealership & when my old car died it was what he could give me for the most under book value. I got him to take even less because I paid cash. That was about 4 1/2 years age so I can't complain too much :shootme:
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That's pretty well where I'm at right now. Still experimenting with tweeter locations, but it sounds best to me a few inches up from the bottom of the a-pillar & slightly off axis. This is my first attempt at an active setup. I've got my mids at 80-3.15 & tweets at 3.15 12db slopes on both. Currently running the gt-2300 amp 300x2@4ohm on mids & gt-2200 200x2@4ohm on highs. Gains are all the way down on highs & hardly touched on mids, less then degree or 2 rotation. These JBL components are ok, but they sound better to me highpassed at 100 hertz. I have got to get some subs soon
I'm thinking about getting a gt-275 amp 75x2 for highs & using the 2200 for mids & 2300 on subs, any thoughts? I had planned on a gt-2200 per side & 2300 on subs, but I am thinking it may be worth saving a few pennies & using less power on tweets. I could be wrong, I often am, enlighten me
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Looking great! Nice what you did with the ccf around the speaker..
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Looking great! Nice what you did with the ccf around the speaker..
Thanks! Wanted to get a good a seal against the door panel, preferably with what I had on hand. So I doubled over some ccf & it seems to be working well, so far.
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:eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows:
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I've been doing some basic tuning since I've figured out approximate tweeter locations, & I'm not very impressed with the mids. Don't get me wrong they sound good, there's just not much along the lines of low frequency output or volume. Maybe I was just expecting too much due to all the internet-hype.
I'm going to move ahead with the trunk & sub stage, but won't be surprised if I don't end up either replacing the JBL mids, or adding 7-8" with better low frequency response to the doors & putting the JBL mids in some kick panels or back in the box they came in.
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Where are you crossing them over?
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I've got mids at 80-3.15k & tweets at 3.15k, 12db slopes on both. This is my first active setup, any advice or suggestions is appreciated
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Try lowering the mid to 63hz @24db and 2k at 12db..
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I gave it a go, sounded like my sound stage widened & raised slightly. Problem is it's almost like these mids lose clarity below 100hz. I'm tempted to try a pair of small mid bass/subs in some kick pods, or moving these to kicks & mid bass/sub in doors.
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Too much power maybe the problem, drop you gains to minimum those should be 100% comfortable at those frequencies
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Thank you, I believe you are correct. I had the gains all the way down on highs & only slightly above minimum on mids, but after a few more hours of play time I may have slight bit of distortion from the right mid. That or I'm hearing shit, may well be in the market for some replacements :confused:
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How well sealed are the doors?
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Aside from the window seal, drain holes, & holes for door panel to attach, it's pretty well sealed.
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Maybe choking the mids if they require or are designed for IB like I think the JBL's are.
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Any thoughts on swapping these for the jbl's in the doors, Peerless 830875 Nomex HDS? or other possible options under $150 or so a pair?
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he's going out of business
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I'd been eyeing the Anarchy prior to getting the jbl's. That was at full price, guess I can hardly lose at nearly half off. I have almost 3" clearance in the door & 1 3/4" thick baffle is what I've got currently. Only problem I could see is I've only got 23-25mm above the mounting surface. I could always take the difference off the baffle thickness if they made contact at full excursion.
Anyone heard or used these personally? I've had poor past experiences with alum coned mids, but really only at higher frequencies then I'd likely run these at
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I'd been eyeing the Anarchy prior to getting the jbl's. That was at full price, guess I can hardly lose at nearly half off. I have almost 3" clearance in the door & 1 3/4" thick baffle is what I've got currently. Only problem I could see is I've only got 23-25mm above the mounting surface. I could always take the difference off the baffle thickness if they made contact at full excursion.
Anyone heard or used these personally? I've had poor past experiences with alum coned mids, but really only at higher frequencies then I'd likely run these at
Glenn has used them, and I've heard of others using them. Everybody has nothing but good things to say about them.
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I'd been eyeing the Anarchy prior to getting the jbl's. That was at full price, guess I can hardly lose at nearly half off. I have almost 3" clearance in the door & 1 3/4" thick baffle is what I've got currently. Only problem I could see is I've only got 23-25mm above the mounting surface. I could always take the difference off the baffle thickness if they made contact at full excursion.
Anyone heard or used these personally? I've had poor past experiences with alum coned mids, but really only at higher frequencies then I'd likely run these at
I've heard them several times. If I had room, they would be in my car. I have the neo's, they are good drivers. The Anarchy is a great driver. Good from 63-3.5k and really come alive with power.
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I'd been eyeing the Anarchy prior to getting the jbl's. That was at full price, guess I can hardly lose at nearly half off. I have almost 3" clearance in the door & 1 3/4" thick baffle is what I've got currently. Only problem I could see is I've only got 23-25mm above the mounting surface. I could always take the difference off the baffle thickness if they made contact at full excursion.
Anyone heard or used these personally? I've had poor past experiences with alum coned mids, but really only at higher frequencies then I'd likely run these at
how much room is there for your jbl's to breathe with a 1 3/4" baffle?
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I'm not sure how what you mean? It's a 5 3/4 in circle from top to bottom so it opens in to the door cavity & half ass rounded over the bottom inside edge. I'm open to any comments or suggestions, was just the best way I came up with to mount them.
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I've heard them and they are every bit as good as people say. Can get really deep, keep composure into the midrange and take a beating.
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I may have missed something, but how are you running 3-way active with only 4 channels of amplification? Are you running the tweets off the headunit?
edit: Nevermind, I just realized there was no mention of a sub.
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I'll be damned, I had my suspicions that something was wrong with one of these jbl mids from the start. I had always had decent sound on the left but not so much on the right. Just got worse as the volume increased, assumed it was me fucking up, or just a not as good a speaker as I'd heard it was.
Turns out the spider is not glued to the voice coil! I can't see how at the same power & volume levels that'd happen to one & the other would still be perfectly fine. Got a rma # from Harman so here's hoping that I'll be getting a replacement
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No progress. I've been waiting for weeks for replacement speakers to arrive, only to find out I have to wait some more. I am very displeased with the service I've received so far. JBL said it would be 4 day max turn around on shipping out replacements. It's been closer to 4 weeks & now they are saying it'll be first week of August before they're back in stock. Nothing but bullshit single line email replies by way of India, customer service at it's finest :disbelief:
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Those MS components are amazing. Hard to beat for the price, that's for sure. Paired with a W10Gti, best simple passive system I've ever heard.