Less than three weeks to nationwide riots....

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For the conservative/right wing, it is the process that is important. For the progressive/left wing, it is the outcome that is important. For the conservative/right wing, cheating is immoral, as it is antithetical to the process. For the progressive/left wing, losing is immoral, as it is a failure to achieve the utopian goal. For the progressive/left wing, cheating, becomes a moral good, as a means of achieving the idealized greater goal. For the conservative/right wing, cheating is a moral evil, as an outcome that is attained by evil means is in and of itself an evil outcome.
 
Grinder said:
For the conservative/right wing, it is the process that is important. For the progressive/left wing, it is the outcome that is important. For the conservative/right wing, cheating is immoral, as it is antithetical to the process. For the progressive/left wing, losing is immoral, as it is a failure to achieve the utopian goal. For the progressive/left wing, cheating, becomes a moral good, as a means of achieving the idealized greater goal. For the conservative/right wing, cheating is a moral evil, as an outcome that is attained by evil means is in and of itself an evil outcome.
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So.....Trump is part of the progressive/left wing?
 
Euphonic said:
So.....Trump is part of the progressive/left wing?
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I get your point, and I agree. I assume that every power-seeking person/politician is essentially corrupt - Trump included, of course.

My statement refers broadly to voters and vote counters.

However, if we're comparing Trump to Biden within that context, then in my view Trump is the conservative/right wing, and Biden is the progressive/left wing - and not the other way around.
 
Grinder said:
For the conservative/right wing, it is the process that is important. For the progressive/left wing, it is the outcome that is important. For the conservative/right wing, cheating is immoral, as it is antithetical to the process. For the progressive/left wing, losing is immoral, as it is a failure to achieve the utopian goal. For the progressive/left wing, cheating, becomes a moral good, as a means of achieving the idealized greater goal. For the conservative/right wing, cheating is a moral evil, as an outcome that is attained by evil means is in and of itself an evil outcome.
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All of the cheating and fraud is about to be exposed... Their are NUMEROUS accounts of whistleblowers coming forward specifically from the states that magically flipped for Biden after we went to sleep on Nov 3rd... Buckle up. ;)
 
DavidRam said:
All of the cheating and fraud is about to be exposed... Their are NUMEROUS accounts of whistleblowers coming forward specifically from the states that magically flipped for Biden after we went to sleep on Nov 3rd... Buckle up. ;)
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Yeah, the magic of the mail in ballots being counted.
 
DavidRam said:
All of the cheating and fraud is about to be exposed... Their are NUMEROUS accounts of whistleblowers coming forward specifically from the states that magically flipped for Biden after we went to sleep on Nov 3rd... Buckle up. ;)
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I very much hope so, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

I think the one thing that conservatives, progressives and moderates alike can count on is that we will all be sorely disappointed. It will be corrupt business-and-politics-as-usual.

Neither Hilary, nor Biden, nor Trump will ever be brought to justice. The swamp will not be drained.

The pLandemic is here to stay. We have entered The New Normal/The Great Reset/The Fourth Industrial Revolution.

If we don't come to our senses, our great republic is fucked.
 
ca90ss said:
Yeah, the magic of the mail in ballots being counted.
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First time we have agreed on anything. The magic is/was in the mail in ballots. 4am special delivery kinda mail in ballots. Oops, Trump's about to win send out the signal for plan B kinda ballots. ;)

That is exactly why they wanted mail in ballots. That is exactly why they fought to block pole watchers. That is exactly why they are fighting a recount. Etc, etc, etc...
 
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It can’t possibly be that mail in ballots were mostly from democrats after Trump spent months convincing his cult not to use them. It can’t possibly be that states like Pennsylvania couldn’t even start counting them until Election Day. Even after Trump cheating and slowing down mail service he still lost. If he was so concerned about transparency why did he only file lawsuits in states he lost? Why not every state? Transparency is the goal isn’t it? Even with the republican affirmative action we call the electoral college he still couldn’t cheat his way in. You lost, get over it.
 
This is about a whole lot more than mail-in ballots...

Both sides have and will cheat. Neither Biden nor Trump are interested in transparency. Like virtually all politicians, they aim to win, and they will lie and cheat to that end.

No matter who wins at this point, we all lose. Our republic cannot survive an absence of trust in our election process.
 
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Automatic Recounts

Twenty-one states (22 in 2021, after a new law, SB 7505B, takes effect in New York in 2021) and the District of Columbia provide for automatic or mandatory recounts, which are conducted if the margin between the top two candidates is within certain parameters.

Table 2 details trigger thresholds.

Table 3, further down, details automatic recount deadlines.

Table 2: Automatic Recount Thresholds

[TABLE="class: table table-striped, width: 535"]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]State[/TD]
[TD]Trigger[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Alabama
Ala. Code § 17-16-20[/TD]
[TD]Less than 0.5% of the votes cast for the office or the ballot measure[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Alaska
Alaska Stat. § 15.20.430[/TD]
[TD]Tie vote[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Arizona
Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 16-661[/TD]
[TD]Less than or equal to the lesser of the following: 0.1% of the votes cast for both candidates or measures
In the case of an office to be filled by state electors or a statewide initiated or referred measure: 200 votes if more than 25,000 votes were cast; 50 votes if 25,000 or fewer votes were cast; 200 votes in the case of a measure
In the case of a member of the state legislature: 50 votes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Colorado
Colo. Rev. Stat. § 1-10.5-101[/TD]
[TD]Less than or equal to 0.5% of the highest vote cast in that election contest[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Connecticut
Conn. Gen. Stat. § 9-311a[/TD]
[TD]Less than 0.5% of the total votes cast for the office but not more than 2,000 votes, or less than 20 votes. A recount is automatic in the event of a tied vote as well.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Delaware
Del. Code tit. 15 § 5702(e)[/TD]
[TD]Less than 1,000 votes or 0.5% of all votes cast for the two candidates, whichever is less (applies only to elections of state legislators and county offices)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]District of Columbia
D.C. Code § 1-1001.11[/TD]
[TD]Less than 1% of the total votes cast for the office[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Florida
Fla. Stat. § 102.141(7)[/TD]
[TD]0.5% of the votes cast on the office or measure[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hawaii
Haw. Rev. Stat. § 11-158[/TD]
[TD]100 votes or fewer or 0.25% of the total votes cast for the contest, whichever is greater[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Michigan
Mich. Comp. Laws § 168.880a[/TD]
[TD]2,000 votes or less in a statewide primary or election[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nebraska
Neb. Rev. Stat. § 32-1119[/TD]
[TD]1% or less of the votes received by the candidate who received the highest number of votes for the office if more than 500 total votes were cast, or 2% or less of the votes received by the candidate who received the highest number of votes for the office if 500 or less total votes were cast[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]New Mexico
N.M. Stat. Ann. § 1-14-24[/TD]
[TD]Less than 0.25% of the total votes cast in the election for a federal or statewide office or a statewide ballot measure; less than 1% of the total votes cast in the election for most other offices, including state legislators[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]New York
N.Y. Elec. Law § 9-208(4)
(effective Jan. 1, 2021)[/TD]
[TD]Margin of victory is 20 votes or less; or margin of victory is 0.5% or less; or in a contest where 1 million or more ballots are cast and the margin of victory is less than 5,000 votes. The term margin of victory shall mean the margin between all votes cast in the entire contest following the recanvass of votes.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]North Dakota
N.D. Cent. Code § 16.1-16-01[/TD]
[TD]Primary: 1% or less of highest vote cast for that office
General: 0.5% or less of highest vote cast for that office
Ballot Measures: 0.25% or less of total vote cast for measure[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ohio
Ohio Rev. Code § 3515.011[/TD]
[TD]0.25% or less for statewide office or issue
0.5% for other offices[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Oregon
Or. Rev. Stat. § 258.280[/TD]
[TD]Tie vote, or not more than 0.2% of the total votes for both candidates[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pennsylvania
25 Pa. Stat. § 3154(g)[/TD]
[TD]0.5% or less of the votes cast for the office for statewide candidates and ballot questions[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]South Carolina
S.C. Code § 7-17-280[/TD]
[TD]Less than 1% of total votes cast for the office[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]South Dakota
S.D. Codified Laws § 12-21-16[/TD]
[TD]Tie vote[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Texas
Tex. Elec. Code § 216.001[/TD]
[TD]Tie vote[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Washington
Wash. Rev. Code § 29A.64.021[/TD]
[TD]Less than 2,000 votes and also less than 0.5% of the total number of votes cast for both candidates[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]
[TD]Wyoming
Wyo. Stat. § 22-16-109[/TD]
[TD]When the difference in number of votes cast for the winning candidate receiving the least number of votes and the number of votes cast for the losing candidate receiving the greatest number of votes is less than 1% of the number of votes cast for the winning candidate receiving the least number of votes cast

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/automatic-recount-thresholds.aspx
 
DavidRam said:
All of the cheating and fraud is about to be exposed... Their are NUMEROUS accounts of whistleblowers coming forward specifically from the states that magically flipped for Biden after we went to sleep on Nov 3rd... Buckle up. ;)
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So whistleblowers are a good thing now - got it.

For real though - where's the evidence? Somebody's sister's cousin's babysitter's hairdresser claims he saw a Biden van unloading ballots ain't gonna cut it. If only everybody had a camera in their pocket we might get to witness some of these unicorn events.

And really, we all knew there were some states that would not be counted for several days - knew that in advance. That's how some states do things. Not sure why that's so hard to understand.
 
Pennsylvania flipped 19,958 votes from Trump to Biden, live on CNN:
https://streamable.com/b2ndze

At 0:05 of video:
Trump: 1,690,589
Biden: 1,252,537

36 seconds later:
Trump: 1,670,631
Biden: 1,272,495

Math:
(Trump 1,690,589 - 19,958 = 1,670,631)
(Biden 1,252,537 + 19,958 = 1,272,495)
(19,958 x 2 = 39,916 sudden net gain for Biden)

Fraud? I don't know. Suspicious? yes.
 
The truth no longer matters. All that matters is whether or not the media reports it, and for the most part they do not. Indeed, the media and big tech aggressively block and censor everyone and everything that does not fit the narrative.

Sadly, we plebs have basically separated ourselves into two camps: Those of us that mainly trust the media and believe the narrative, and those of us that do not. While the former smugly congratulate one another for their ignorant hive-mind wokeness and presumed rationality, the latter mostly quibble and argue with one another about what's "really" going on, and about what will happen in the future.
 
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