Just watched your video of the build log for the A4, those kick panels are not actually stock at all. From the factory it only came stock with 2 way in the doors, Dave (TheDavel) and I were looking at putting a 3 way into the doors, with the mids going in the factory tweeter location and then putting new sail panels in for the tweeters. But, with the way the door card and sail panel are mounted, as well as there being virtually no room behind the factory tweeter grill, ended up with the kick panels for simplicity sake, I can't remember if I left the little plastic brackets behind the kick panel or not.
24" Stealth Build: Stereo Integrity Audi A4 Avant
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Definitely interesting thoughts, to me anyway. I bought some small AP membranes for use in some bookshelves - there ends my experimenting with AP, and that already puts me in a rarefied crowd.
I'm scratching my head trying to think of how it would be possible to build a water resistant membrane (to the degree that the whole splashy underside of the car is exposed - so I'm sure he wants a real weatherproof seal, at least sealed from a weather standpoint) without being at all air resistant?
I could be wrong - I'm just thinking that by the time it's truly weather resistant, it must behave like an AP membrane. No sacrifice of course - you don't really need airspace for those either.
And conversely - if you let up on the weatherproofing a bit so that it won't have any air resistance, then it won't really be weatherproof.
So you and I are really on the same page - I'm wondering where on that spectrum this membrane is going to fall also - probably just depends on the execution, which I'm staying tuned for.
I love this install - if you put that mock-up picture in front of most car audio enthusiasts, they'd laugh and say something like "Can you imagine if that were real and not obviously a photoshop job?"
JasonInAugusta
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Before I tore into the car Nick told me the car had a factory 3" location in the kicks. Didn't make sense to me so I went searching for info.
Found nothing, but I'm not an Audi guy so I went with what I was told.
In that video I went based on what I was told.
I've since pulled the kick panel on the passenger side and found some plastic bits in there. Told Nick that these aren't factory locations.
You guys had him fooled. They looked great. Didn't look out of place.
Found nothing, but I'm not an Audi guy so I went with what I was told.
In that video I went based on what I was told.
I've since pulled the kick panel on the passenger side and found some plastic bits in there. Told Nick that these aren't factory locations.
You guys had him fooled. They looked great. Didn't look out of place.
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JasonInAugusta
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Definitely interesting thoughts, to me anyway. I bought some small AP membranes for use in some bookshelves - there ends my experimenting with AP, and that already puts me in a rarefied crowd.
I'm scratching my head trying to think of how it would be possible to build a water resistant membrane (to the degree that the whole splashy underside of the car is exposed - so I'm sure he wants a real weatherproof seal, at least sealed from a weather standpoint) without being at all air resistant?
I could be wrong - I'm just thinking that by the time it's truly weather resistant, it must behave like an AP membrane. No sacrifice of course - you don't really need airspace for those either.
And conversely - if you let up on the weatherproofing a bit so that it won't have any air resistance, then it won't really be weatherproof.
So you and I are really on the same page - I'm wondering where on that spectrum this membrane is going to fall also - probably just depends on the execution, which I'm staying tuned for.
I love this install - if you put that mock-up picture in front of most car audio enthusiasts, they'd laugh and say something like "Can you imagine if that were real and not obviously a photoshop job?"
A lot of people have said that it's fake, I'm not doing it, and so on.
Here's one of the layers for the bottom side.
https://www.moflowvents.com/pre-filter-hydrophobic-mesh/
I figured maybe Nick had said it was stock, sorry if my post came across as negative, was just mentioning it really. One of the goals was to make it look factory, so I am glad that we managed to achieve that with it. Looking forward to your next updates, some great work going into there, if you need any info on taking any of it apart (doubt you will, as I am sure you have discovered, it is fairly easy to work on), or part numbers etc. let me know.
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That's super interesting stuff... basically that's to wrap an air intake on a motor with, right? So in other words - it's designed to keep water from passing through, even with [basically] a vacuum pulling air through the fabric? Wow!
So yeah, you'd have to also assume it wouldn't be air-resistant, or else that would knock down the horsepower on whatever engine you wrap the intake on. It's not even expensive. Crazy.
I was thinking more complex - thinking you'd have to do several layers of something like this, maybe some sort of another barrier layer in between or something fairly complex, so eventually you'd introduce at least a little air resistance. These masks that we have to wear to the grocery store now definitely have me thinking about breathing resistance.
I wonder if your barrier could be as simple as a couple half-inch thick plastic rings to go around your cutout, spacing maybe three layers of this stuff a half inch apart... and nothing else?
Redundancy basically to mitigate a forceful spray or damage to one layer? I'm sure you've already been giving the barrier more thought than my 30 seconds.Just an idea for slick (no pun intended) points:
There's lots of moisture sensors and even cheap boards designed to control water pumps- https://www.ebay.com/itm/Liquid-Level-Controller-Module-Water-Level-Detection-Sensor-Control-Module-AF/292295463570
I think it would be slick to out-smart the inevitable future questions about water, quell the disbelievers... to repurpose a sensor and board like that - but rather than run a pump, you could simply use it in-line on the the remote turn-on wire to sub amp.
If water is detected - the LED light lights on the board (you could remote-locate that LED somewhere cool), and the amp shuts off. So you could tell people of that device and add "it's never gone off yet!"
subwoofery
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Great job, could you do a video with the sub secured and playing at a descent volume then walk around the car?
Always wondered how loud it would sound outside the car.
Thanks :thumbsup:
Kelvin
Always wondered how loud it would sound outside the car.
Thanks :thumbsup:
Kelvin
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I have enjoyed this vehicle for years - one of those timeless vehicles - looks new, fresh - and Ian always had a great sounding system in it.
I love what you are doing! I totally ‘get it’ and I’m so happy you are doing this. I have always wanted to experience Nick’s 24’s - was thinking it would be in an awesome home theater build, but how fantastic is it that it will be in his car! You are going to knock this out of the park Jason! Thanks as well for the memory of that meet in Hickory! Really enjoyed meeting you, and I loved the Chevelle!
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I love what you are doing! I totally ‘get it’ and I’m so happy you are doing this. I have always wanted to experience Nick’s 24’s - was thinking it would be in an awesome home theater build, but how fantastic is it that it will be in his car! You are going to knock this out of the park Jason! Thanks as well for the memory of that meet in Hickory! Really enjoyed meeting you, and I loved the Chevelle!
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I was curious what one of these things cost so I went and looked it up and was checking it out. The spec that impressed me the most was it weighs 145 lbs ????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy Crap !
Oh, and it can take 2000 WRMS. Ha !
A Qts of .39 seems a bit low for IB, but I'm kind of thinking once you get to this point it doesn't really matter.
Holy Crap !
Oh, and it can take 2000 WRMS. Ha !
A Qts of .39 seems a bit low for IB, but I'm kind of thinking once you get to this point it doesn't really matter.
JasonInAugusta
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JasonInAugusta
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Finally got the first video of the build log series up.
LumbermanSVO
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I have a pair of the HS-24's for my home, each in it's own bridged Crown XLS 2402. Even just sitting in their shipping crates(no enclosure) they are ridiculous and do things you'd never expect. They sound great and handle movies incredibly well. They make the W15GTi's in my bedroom system seem quaint.
Hey, I recognize that car
Having run a 10" sub in there for years before Nick bought the car, I let out the same laugh at seeing the 24" sitting in there. Was talking to Nick on the phone and telling him how much I love the complete stealth look and how he can have a little fun with demos telling people there is no sub installed.
Made me chuckle. Also made me think of Erin demoing his car and then asking if he should turn the subs on. lol (Old Civic, a while ago.)
Once things calm down again, I hope to get a demo of this thing at some point.
Jay
It's still a little odd, even 6 months after selling the Audi, to see pictures of it as someone else car. What will be really odd is when it is complete and I get a demo 
I think I am just now getting the Volvo to where I am happy with the audio to the same level that I was with the Audi. Which reminds me I need to post a little update to the build log for that.
I hope things calm down soon, while I could only typically get to 2, maybe 3 meets a year, I'm missing hanging out with a lot of the guys I have made friends with over the last few years.
I think I am just now getting the Volvo to where I am happy with the audio to the same level that I was with the Audi. Which reminds me I need to post a little update to the build log for that.I hope things calm down soon, while I could only typically get to 2, maybe 3 meets a year, I'm missing hanging out with a lot of the guys I have made friends with over the last few years.
It's still a little odd, even 6 months after selling the Audi, to see pictures of it as someone else car. What will be really odd is when it is complete and I get a demo
I hope things calm down soon, while I could only typically get to 2, maybe 3 meets a year, I'm missing hanging out with a lot of the guys I have made friends with over the last few years.
Me too. I see the November NCSQ meet is in VA now, and is about 3 hours closer to me. Depending on how things go, I hope to make it. We'll see if I'm still employed. It's a very near thing right now. I want to strangle a ton of people who run (if that's what you could call it) the company I work for.
I didn't realize the Audi was yours before. I'd seen it when it was yours, but just figured it was another Audi wagon. Never put 2 and 2 together.
Jay
Well, hopefully you're still employed and can make it in November to the meet in VA. The location is decent, we had a mini meet there earlier in the year with half a dozen of us.
Had the Audi for about 11 years before selling it to Nick, was difficult selling it after having it so long, but great seeing it go to a good home. If you make it down to the NC / VA meet I'll have to make sure to get you a demo in the Volvo
Had the Audi for about 11 years before selling it to Nick, was difficult selling it after having it so long, but great seeing it go to a good home. If you make it down to the NC / VA meet I'll have to make sure to get you a demo in the Volvo
Older thread, but this is the first time I noticed this build and watched these videos! Man, I think I "need" this setup for my car now, LOL.
Any rough idea what a shop would charge to cut and modify a typical car like this for mounting this SUB? I know every car is much different. I am sure its lots more than the sub itself but wanted to get an idea.
Any rough idea what a shop would charge to cut and modify a typical car like this for mounting this SUB? I know every car is much different. I am sure its lots more than the sub itself but wanted to get an idea.