2009 Smart ForTwo

This is my wife's car, one that started with a very simple install, onto a more moderate SQ system, and now, well...

First, some pics of the car.

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List of non-audio mods:
Panimex Body Kit in Gloss Black (complete set - side skirts, rear and front spoilers with integrated LEDs)
Coilover Set - Bilstein B14
16" Sport Edition SM3 Silver + Yokohama S.drive tires
Roof Spoiler by BRABUS
Performance Exhaust by SILA Concepts - Dual Tip Center Exit
Cold Air Intake by SILA Concepts - Powdercoated in a Black Finish
Cold Air Intake Induction Tube Upgrade
Side Scoop (GT) - Smoke Finish
Sprint Booster
HID Conversion Kit - 4300k
Front Parking Light SMD
License Plate SMD Bulbs
Z series Black Antenna
Smann rear window grip
smart base rack
smart bike rack
 
Goals:
1. Achieve a high level of sound quality while maintaining a classy look with impeccable attention to detail.
2. Incorporate an iPad mini as the source unit.
3. Continue with the theme of no loss of trunk space.

As with my Civic, I reached out to John of JT Audio and Accessories to help make the install portion happen. Unlike my Civic where I did portions of the install, my wife and I decided to let JT really showcase his talents on this one. Perhaps the only thing remaining from my previous work on this car are a couple power cables along with where the amp is mounted (under the seat). This is to be replaced in the near future.

I'll let the pics speak for themselves, but every time he sent us an update, our jaws just dropped. Wow, amazing, awesome were words often used :D.

Ok, let's start off with the source unit as mentioned. iPad mini integrated seamlessly into the dash. Alpine RUX-C800 installed right below it. For those not familiar with the Smart, there's usually the controls for hazard, power door locks, and TPMS indicator right below the HU. The controls have been expertly relocated under the steering wheel.

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with a couple build pics

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Next, an Alpine H800 installed in the left rear quarter panel.

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with a couple quick build pics

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Moving onto possibly the most difficult part of the build, or at least one of the two ;).

Here's the new and improved sub stage.

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Pop off the grill and behind it you will find an Illusion Audio C12XL. :o

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Remove the protective cover and you will find what JT indicated as "easily one of the hardest boxes i've ever built".

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...and one build pic.

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For those with discerning eyes, you'll be able to see how the proper airspace was achieved (hint: I'm not referring to the stuffing). :surprised:
 
And finally, for the front stage changes, went with the Illusion Audio Carbon C5 CX.

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...so call it a 2.1 front stage :D

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VERY nice install and a great level of craftsmanship. Lots of creative solutions implemented there.
 
I saw car a couple weeks ago while JT was in the middle of the build. Needless to say it cleaned up very, very nicely.

The pics are beautiful, I'm sure it looks better in person.

Have you started tuning yet? How do you like tuning with the remote unit?
 
Thanks everyone.

Paul, tuning starts today, targeting a show at MECA CA state finals 15 minutes from our house :).

The beauty of the H800 is that you can tune with the controller OR with a laptop. So typically, can use a laptop for extended tuning sessions. But when at a comp, gtg, or even just driving, if there's a small tweak I would like to make, I don't have to bust out a laptop to change the tune. Most other non-Alpine processors I know off are either one or the other. Plus, the Alpine comes with 6 presets out of the box. Another nice to have.

Will be sending you a PM shortly.
 
Wow props to jt audio on the Fab work, looks great! 5" point sources in ya face, and that sub, in such a small space, I'd imagine the dynamics are astounding. What brought Mrs. Papasin to this point? Last instal in this car was fairly small, she love the sq that much, or is she just addicted to the competition?
 
Wow props to jt audio on the Fab work, looks great! 5" point sources in ya face, and that sub, in such a small space, I'd imagine the dynamics are astounding. What brought Mrs. Papasin to this point? Last instal in this car was fairly small, she love the sq that much, or is she just addicted to the competition?

There's a couple guys on this thread that can probably comment and witnessed the events that led up to this in the MECA rules thread on DIYMA. Without having to drudge that all back up and to keep a long story short, basically, there was a protest on her car's classification in MECA...so while we decided to stay in the sidelines for a little bit, rather than (re-)building a car for a specific class, let's just say she opted to go for the home run and go into a class where pretty much anything goes ;).
 
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There's a couple guys on this thread that can probably comment and witnessed the events that led up to this in the MECA rules thread on DIYMA. Without having to drudge that all back up and to keep a long story short, basically, there was a protest on her car's classification in MECA...so while we decided to stay in the sidelines for a little bit, rather than (re-)building a car for a specific class, let's just say she opted to go for the home run and go into a class where pretty much anything goes ;).



Yup, I was following that thread during the whole "rules" fiasco. I was just surprised to see a lady go the "all out for sound" route. Doesent follow their typically inherent patterns of unobtrusive asthetics, not just car audio, but usually in most things they do. Kinda something they seem to be hardwired to follow. It just looks like something a guy would do, throwing practicality and conservatism to the wind in search of higher sq......regardless, it looks great! I'm jelly of the fact that your wife is as into audio as you are, and for that fact that your whole family attends, and participates in the competition scene. Also glad you weren't too discouraged to return to something that your enthusiasm shines through on everytime you post about it. My wife is the "background music" type, and shares no love for my stereo, or my constant desire to change it. So count yourself lucky she not only showed interest in your hobby, but enjoys music enough to actually want a nice stereo in her own car! Out of curiosity, do you guys share a taste in music? That would be awesome as well, not only someone to appreciate the sounds of a good stereo, but someone who is entertained by the same music as well......:peace:
 
Yup, I was following that thread during the whole "rules" fiasco. I was just surprised to see a lady go the "all out for sound" route. Doesent follow their typically inherent patterns of unobtrusive asthetics, not just car audio, but usually in most things they do. Kinda something they seem to be hardwired to follow. It just looks like something a guy would do, throwing practicality and conservatism to the wind in search of higher sq......regardless, it looks great! I'm jelly of the fact that your wife is as into audio as you are, and for that fact that your whole family attends, and participates in the competition scene. Also glad you weren't too discouraged to return to something that your enthusiasm shines through on everytime you post about it. My wife is the "background music" type, and shares no love for my stereo, or my constant desire to change it. So count yourself lucky she not only showed interest in your hobby, but enjoys music enough to actually want a nice stereo in her own car! Out of curiosity, do you guys share a taste in music? That would be awesome as well, not only someone to appreciate the sounds of a good stereo, but someone who is entertained by the same music as well......:peace:

Well, a few things in response to what you said...

1. TBH, I was (and to a certain extent sometimes feel like) wanting to walk away from the competition scene. When it ceases to be fun, really should examine whether you still should do it. The irony is, in this past comp year, I had way more fun in the comps that I didn't win, and the least fun at the last comp that I won. And I won big time, like beat the other 3 guys in my class by 20 points or more (and for that day, my car beat the reigning worlds master class sq runner up, and was a couple points from the nation's extreme class points leader for this year). But this comp took place after the initial protest, and the protest that we thought was behind us...it kind of already left a bad taste in my mouth. Anyway, it was after that comp where "Smartgate" all happened, and I was really ready to walk away...but it's my wife who wants to basically "prove that she can rise beyond whatever others throw at her"...and naturally, I want to support her (funny that most folks yearn for their wives to support them, not the other way around ;) ).
2. My wife is used to this kind of stuff being in the profession she's in. A couple others know this, but she's an electrical engineer by training, a field that we know is for the most part male dominant. Through her career, she's used to people thinking, well, she's just a girl :). Not saying that's what you implied, but you kind of did ;). The others at the comp scene all think she just "tags along" with me...and while that may have been how it started, it's far from it now. She's really taken a passion to SQ, and in fact, I tell her she should be a judge, but she doesn't want to be subjected to more "crap". IMHO she would be a fantastic SQ judge, and not just an opinion I have. She has a really good ear, can pick out when listening whether 10k or another band is a little hot, something's wrong with the layering of the instruments on the stage, etc. A couple of the other comp guys noticed this and rush to try go get her for feedback on their cars, but others I don't think still has gotten passed that "she's a girl" and dismiss her abilities or just don't even realize it. With that setting the context, it was entirely her decision to go for this SQ setup. We discussed 4s on the dash and 8s in the kicks, but with her car, there are no kicks, and why stop at 4s that would require a separate midbass vs. 5s plus a sub to fully round out the front stage? That would be simply to conform to a set of rules for a certain class, vs. making a choice on how to make the car the best it could be.
3. Yeah, as for the family involvement...again, her idea! The kids MK1 car was totally all her, not just the idea, but she built 98% of it, did all the wiring, battery install, amp mounting, etc. I gave her very little help, just a couple times when she had a couple questions, but she did pretty much all of the work. It's not too dissimilar to what she does, which builds and prototypes NASA rovers :).
4. Believe me, I count myself lucky every day, great wife, great kids, what more can one want? :D :D I like the GTGs more myself, but she likes to go to both and I'll "tag along" to the comps for a change and support her. :proud:
5. As for taste of music, pretty much anything goes...like the car! :) We both have experience in classical music. I played the violin for nearly 10 years, and she plays the flute and piano.

Hope that helps set some context.
 
Awesome, and I would never lower expectations on a lady at anything, or throw the "just a girl" thing around...........its just the look of the instal fits male patterns more so than female......that's one of their advantages in anything, especially in male dominated fields, the different approach they take when examining a given situation, so I in no means meant that she wouldn't be able to plan and execute a fine sounding car. Just expected a different approach and install, than this, which looks like I might have done it........well, except for the brilliant craftsmanship......
 
chick EE with a stubborn streak?

you gotta admit that the stereotype rests on some pretty dominant male behavior/characteristics. Hunter gatherers and that single-minded focus vs. the wailin' baby hovers and all..

I did enjoy the MECA fresca, but I'm geared for prodding, perhaps.

This Smart install is really nice. I'd like to see a little more investigative reports on those Carbons, as I can't help but be prejudiced towards the Kef modeling so far on edge termination and point source accuracy. The high cost helps keep that 'cachet' of competition level, but I'm wondering if the DSP can bring the Carbons to the Kef, making comparison purposes academic.

Rover build, there's room for some linear actuators in there...
 
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