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[Fricasseekid]

Cajunner are you familiar with synergism vs. monergism?

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[Hic]

you know the parable of the rich man, and getting into heaven, right? It's so popular because there's a tangential glimpse into what was being inferred, a rich man is synonymous with a wise man.

Proverbs 26:12
Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them.

now, back to the idea of "go forth, and study" and those three wise men that visited, bearing gifts.

But the poor who has understanding sees through him.

[cajunner]

Cajunner are you familiar with synergism vs. monergism?

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not really, expand your point if don't mind, I think I know where you're going

[cajunner]

Proverbs 26:12
Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them.




But the poor who has understanding sees through him.

did you have to bold that, Hic?

the aspect, or angle of attack, or whatever, a wise man brings into a conversation is not the same as a fool's, because you can forgive a fool's improprieties and a wise man bears the burden of his station, and place.

a fool, is like saying those who have developmental disabilities in our modern vernacular, and people who cannot discern when they are "out of bounds" could apply to someone like me, who may appear as a fool appears, to God.

It could even be a continuum, on which people find themselves in a part of the curve they didn't intend, and wouldn't inhabit unless they were unaware.


Being aware, that's always been the trick, I think.

[Fricasseekid]

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Just as well...
"We should refrain from discussing our differences in mixed company."- - -C.S. Lewis

If you really wanna know about the two main interpretations of the bible look up the Arminianism vs Calvinism debate.

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[astrochex]

Just typed a long response and tapatalk wiped it out!

Just as well...
"We should refrain from discussing our differences in mixed company."- - -C.S. Lewis

If you really wanna know about the two main interpretations of the bible look up the Arminianism vs Calvinism debate.

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I think you meant more specifically, views of salvation and sanctification.

[cajunner]

Just typed a long response and tapatalk wiped it out!

Just as well...
"We should refrain from discussing our differences in mixed company."- - -C.S. Lewis

If you really wanna know about the two main interpretations of the bible look up the Arminianism vs Calvinism debate.

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that's fine, I'm okay with that.

discussing religion is like putting our pets in a cage to fight.

you want yours to win, but you might not enjoy the victory?

too many bet too much on their pet, I think...

[astrochex]

that's fine, I'm okay with that.

discussing religion is like putting our pets in a cage to fight.

you want yours to win, but you might not enjoy the victory?

too many bet too much on their pet, I think...

There is always the danger that the discussion is rational and that the different sides can learn something. I think this one has the opportunity to make that happen.

[Fricasseekid]

Astro, the Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate goes back ages and has been argued by theologians much smarter and more faithful than ourselves. The most interesting thing about it is both sides are pretty much 100% backed by scripture.

Basically it boils down to:
Are we saved by God's will alone (Calvinism/Monergism) or does our salvation require His will and our own (Arminianism/synergism)?
Do we choose God or does God choose us? If both, which came first?

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[astrochex]

Astro, the Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate goes back ages and has been argued by theologians much smarter and more faithful than ourselves. The most interesting thing about it is both sides are pretty much 100% backed by scripture.

Basically it boils down to:
Are we saved by God's will alone (Calvinism/Monergism) or does our salvation require His will and our own (Arminianism/synergism)?
Do we choose God or does God choose us? If both, which came first?

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I am well aware of that debate, Fric. The point I poorly tried to make is that when you say "main interpretations of the bible" you can be referring to a far broader range of topics than salvation.

I will also say that logically, that monergism and synergism cannot both be correct at the same time and in the same sense (the law of non-contradiction). It has to be one or the other.