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    Going from passive to active

    Looking to finally go active. Been thinking of doing this for some time, now. I've been told I will hear an increase in volume. How big a difference is there when switching to active? My amp is an Arc Audio KS900.6. Will I actually notice a big increase in volume? Will this give my front stage more head room? That is the one thing I always wanted while going passive.

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    Re: Going from passive to active

    A slight increase based on raising or lowering crossover points and for headroom , you just need an amp that is purring along ,but, has more power in reserve ! [ if your amp is maxxed out and struggling to keep up . . . Get a BIGGER amp ]
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    Re: Going from passive to active

    I'm not sure how much of a volume increase to expect. I'd guess not much. It'd probably make more of a difference in a PA or live sound system in which you were trying to fill an insanely large area with sound. Don't think it's that big of a deal in a car or the average sized room in a home. If you decide to go active, I'd keep the passive on the tweeter. https://www.audiofrog.com/community/...ve-crossovers/

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    I've read that passive crossover zap power from an amp. Thus, if going active, you will see an increase in power (volume). Is this not the case?

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    Re: Going from passive to active

    http://www.tomsguide.com/forum/38680...passive-active

    Maybe 10% , you won`t be able to hear a difference!
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    Re: Going from passive to active

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawk Fan View Post
    I've read that passive crossover zap power from an amp. Thus, if going active, you will see an increase in power (volume). Is this not the case?
    If you switch from passive to active could it sound different? Probably. Will it be leaps and bounds louder? Probably not. Can your mind convince you it's louder? Yes. If passive crossovers caused that significant of a power loss, nobody would use them.
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    Re: Going from passive to active

    Let's use passives even though we will have to get an amp 3 times bigger to hear the speakers ! Phase shifts are Great !

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    If passive crossovers caused that significant of a power loss, nobody would use them.
    Headroom comes from having "power" in reserve or to spare.
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    Re: Going from passive to active

    Passive crossovers take part of the power that would be going to the speakers and dissipates it as heat, so it's a less efficient system. Going active means that the sound is adjusted before the amp, so the speakers get the amp's full output. Since you will be manually adjusting your crossover points, slopes, gains, etc., you can custom tailor the sound to your environment (which is the whole point). Your highs may sound brighter, your mid may have more kick, and you may get a bit more output...it will definitely sound different that the passive system you're used to. So if you were to put a meter on it to compare, it might be physically louder, or it may not...but if it sounds louder to your ears, then it is louder.


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    Re: Going from passive to active

    I had some down time at work so I did a quick test with a Kenwood passive crossover. On the input, I had 10.69 VAC with a 400hz tone. On the midrange output I had 9.93 VAC with a 4 ohm load. So, yes, it takes a bit of power to run and there's a chance it gets worse as the power increases and the longer it plays because of heat. At the end of the day though, it's an insignificant amount at normal listening volumes. If the main goal is to be able to shape the sound to your personal preference, go active. If you're in search of a huge increase in volume, buy a bigger amp. Or do both and be happier yet.

    For reference, one click down on the volume knob lowered the output by 2.64 VAC.
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