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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    Some prefer cheap chinese made amps and subs, and since distortion is perceived as loudness . . .
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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    So my job is sending me out of town, which interferes with my American Bass build plan. I'll be driving the Blazer and I'm not going on the road with a stock radio setup. I took all of the kicker stuff from the Cobra and threw it into the Blazer. I used my new hu and the wiring kits. I hooked it up the same way I had it in the Cobra, but now the amp cuts completely out if I try to turn it up at all. I did some checking and realized I had been running it at 1 ohm, or at least according to the kicker product mannel, and my kicker 1000.1 is only stable at 2 ohms. The thing that I find confusing is that I've been running it this way for years. The only difference in the system is I'm now running a 0/1 gauge amp wire and my hu is 4 volts. Is it possible that I've had it hooked wrong the whole time, but the smaller 8 amp wire wasn't supplying the amp enough power to make it protect itself? I'm running my subs bridged positive to positive, and neg to neg on each individual sub, not the positive to neg way. It sound really strong for the 3 seconds it played. I tried wiring it parallel and it was terrible, no sq at all. Could this be a voltage problem? The Blazer has a smaller electrical setup than the Cobra. I would still be out there rewiring but I'm a little confused.
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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    You are very lucky that it lasted as long as it has, what,s your new amp going to be? Sundown amps do 1 ohm all day long.
    Just a thought. I have seen dual one ohm coils wired in parallel running at 1/2 ohm on a Sundown amp.
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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    Gatorade,
    Series wiring works very well with dvc subs, ie, dual 4ohm voice coils wired one after the other, gives 8ohms , now if you have two of them and wire both subs in parallel it creates a 4ohm final resistance.
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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    Gatorade,
    Series wiring works very well with dvc subs, ie, dual 4ohm voice coils wired one after the other, gives 8ohms , now if you have two of them and wire both subs in parallel it creates a 4ohm final resistance.
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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    The new amp is going to be either a vfl 150.1 or a American Bass phantom 4000. I really want an aq22200 but I don't have enough money. I've even looked at soundstream rubi's but i don't know about those.

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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    A VFL 150.1 is an excellent choice !

    Nice 2nd choice: Soundstream Picasso Series Monoblock PA1.6000D

    • Soundstream Picasso Series PA1.6000D
    • Class-D 1-Ohm Stable Monoblock Amplifier
    • RMS Power Rating:
      • 4 ohms: 1400 watts x 1 chan.
      • 2 ohms: 2000 watts x 1 chan.
      • 1 ohm: 3000 watts x 1 chan.

    • Total power output: 6000 watts
    • Pulse Width Modulated MOSFET power supply
    • Wired remote bass level control included
    • LED power (green) and protect (red) indicators
    • Soft start turn-on
    • Mono channel operation
    • Preamp RCA outputs to daisy chain multiple amps
    • 3-way protection circuitry (thermal, overload, and speaker short protection)
    • Signal to Noise Ration: >104dB
    • Variable low-pass filter: 30 - 250 Hz, 12 dB/octave { set to 80 hz }
    • Subsonic filter: 10 - 50 Hz , 12 dB/octave - { will be needed for a ported enclosure }
    • Variable Bass Boost: 0 to +12 dB bass boost at 45 Hz
    • Fuse Rating: 120 A x 3 - { Big 3 upgrade and 1/0 power/ground wires needed }
    • Phase Control: 0 to 180
    • 0/1 gauge power and ground wiring is recommended for installation. { NEEDED }
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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    I just tried to order a vfl 150.1 but was stopped by the price tag. I had been looking their hybrid versions, thinking they were the real VFL. I went the cheap route, because I still have electrical purchases to make, alt, big three. I got a soundstream Piccaso 1.6000 for $200 to hold me over until my car sales. The kicker amp isn't cutting it, sounds terrible.

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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    Here is a series of 3 things = 1,2,3 0r a,b,c



    Quote Originally Posted by Gatorade View Post
    The thing that I find confusing

    I'm running my subs bridged positive to positive, and neg to neg [ this is wired in parallel ]

    I would still be out there rewiring but I'm a little confused.
    In series/one after the other/neg to pos, pos to neg.
    In parallel/side by side, neg to neg/pos to pos.

    To bad about the great korean made amp. 150.1
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    Re: Complete system upgrade.

    I have it wired in Series and it doesn't pick lows very good. Im going with a 1 ohm load, wired parallel with the new amp.

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