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Does this mean CAJ gets to have Klippel tests now?!
Just kidding! I'm really hoping to make it to your meet Erin. I'm planning my fall vacay around it.
BTW, you should make a member intro thread. Not that you need one.
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I've had MY OWN klippel for over a year now. ;)
So, anyone who wants to see my tests can view them on my site: http://medleysmusings.com/
I actually quit posting most of my tests on DIYMA a while back because no one seems to give a rip. *shrugs*
That's just the nature of the new DIYMer demographic. I would always peruse your Klippel postings. It was frustrating though cause I can interpret about 10% of the data.
You have no idea how much useful knowledge I have gleaned from your postings Erin! I especially like seeing some of your older posts. That's when I realize you weren't to far from where I am just a few years ago. I don't think I'm as dedicated as you though.
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I think Klippel reports are just too technical for the average guy who wants to know which sub hits harder, they don't want to get into the bits of esoteric audio knowledge that some of us like to get into.
learning about drivers, motor design, magnetic properties, material differences, it's all just ways of identifying good value for the money, and the engineering responsible for a good product.
you could have a plain Jane sub like ID made, but take care in the production and go through the quality control, and it'll be hard to beat. And, even if you have all the FEA and Klippel data on file, making use of it is a little difficult if your spec'ed drivers from China come off the boat with somebody's "approximation" of what you ordered.
I tried to make some discussion material from the Klippel reports, and even the FR measurements but translating those into the realm of what sounds better or worse, looked like people were taking offense.
I believe the various types of non-linearity being relevant in a synergistic form would indicate where subjective "better/worse" interpretations, are either valid or just anecdotal, and not able to follow a logically derived 'test pattern'.
you have a lot of brand nut-huggers, so anything you say negative about their favorite brand will be taken with either skepticism or scorn.
At least here we don't have any "approved vendors" (or even worse, vendors/moderators) to go complaining to the staff when somebody says something negative about their product.
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Lol, Ants favorite movie...
Children of the Scorn
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so, when does the vendor forum go up?
well, you could start off with free memberships in the vendors forum for the first six months, and see how much that does, then go on from there....
like, erinh might want to offer his Klippel services for a fee, or Fric might want to be one of the resident box-builders, or whatever..
if we had a rotating RTA setup, or WT3 for forum use, that would be pretty cool, I'd like to put a few of my speakers through a WT3 printout.
that along with a windows tablet or something, maybe that could be an option later on.
what other things could make it into the "ship and use, ship back" category?
or, a 3D printing service, that would be nice...
and cutting board rings, love those..
a couple of test sweeps of everybody's cars using a known reference speaker, to create a data bank of transfer function, car specific curves.
I got a better idea! How about if we have a skill we just use it to help each other out!
The "vendor" label is just a way for Ant to identify who he is making money off of. I don't need to be known as a vendor in order to make someone some speaker rings or do any other bartering. But a "services rendered" sub forum might not be a bad idea.
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I guess we could have some kind of section where people can get approval to post stuff (besides classifieds) without it being too spammy. Any thoughts?
How about a "services rendered" section. If you have a service or talent, post a thread about it along with other pertinent information such as limitations or pricing (or information that the admin deems necessary). The rest can be taken care of through PM. Then feedback on the service can be provided in that thread under the OP.
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it seems more professional to me, to have the vendors format.
services rendered, is like the handyman section in the classifieds. I'd like to see a little bit of money spread around, eventually. I mean, 10 bucks for a year, you make that on one set of 4 treated rings, maybe. Or a box, or a sonotube.
Someone who works at home depot could source the sonotubes at employee discount, (unless someone owns a hardware business, that would be a good vendor, natch) and someone else might do the endcaps, someone else might cut the carpet or make special leather coverings, who knows?
myself, I saw where one of the foreign speaking guys that was selling through, said he'd like me to do his advertising copy, I can certainly copy edit, if anything. I'm not the best or even in the top 10% but I won spelling bees and did take some college english, haha..
and if a vendor section sounds too formal, maybe make it a child board (sub-forum) of the classified section.
I could see it having some impact on people frequenting here, especially since most of the people that are coming here are the usual suspects right now, when the word gets out that you can do the things here that you can do at DIYMA, the people will probably start showing up.
I wasn't one to go anywhere other than DIYMA, that's why I took getting shot in the face personally.
I'm gonna put in the vote for a vendor section, Fric's liking services rendered, I don't know what the difference is really...
I'd assume it more of a "vendor" = pushing products & making sales, "services rendered" = helping out forum members for possible exchange of $ or trades. Hell I'm not in any position to make suggestions, but I'd say as long as the goal is to promote good deals on resources or offer assistance & not a buy my products to line my pockets deal then imo title matters not.
I do like the ring of "services rendered", mainly because I'd considered the legality of opening a make you own porn store. Then it's not prostitution, but services rendered.... right? :boobies:
I just feel that "services rendered" has more of community feel to it.
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what about member services?
rendering is what I do to a piece of chicken fat before I make roux...
then again, member services can easily apply to that DiY porn too...
I see vendors as people who make their living with a service. Not folks who occasionally do something for another member.
I like having my member serviced.
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I guess it all revolves around if the person is planning on making money off the service. Erin wouldn't be considered a vendor because he doesn't make a dime off the Klippel stuff. If somebody made speaker rings for their friends just because they like woodworking and didn't charge anything other than shipping cost, that wouldn't be considered a vendor either.
what about the people who find hot deals?
I like hot deals. You like hot deals? Maybe you got a hot deal, maybe you don't, let us be the judge of that.
Do you make money off the hot deals?
Yeah, I'm just wishful thinking on the Klippel stuff.
and for the rings you'd have to charge for the materials, router bit wear, going to the store to buy cutting boards, or ordering some starboard sheets.
there was a solid surfacing remnant seller on the bay, I picked up a box of square pieces around 13.5" for a little over 20 bucks.
some corian door pods, add mass and don't flex at all.
can we trade/barter, and Want To Buy in the classifieds?
I've got to go to work. Let me think on this...
Nothing wrong with making money, stack that shit up if you can by all means. Not a thing wrong with vendors, services rendered, member servicing :sam: or whatever you chose to call it, as long as people are allowed to have their own unedited thoughts on these products & vendors