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Different cards are for different states.Quote:
EBT system in states affected by the temporary outage also included Alabama, California, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Maryland, Mississippi, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.
LINK , SNAP benefits, and money is dispersed to the cards on the first, fifth and 10th days of every month, so the disruption came at what is typically a high-use time for the cards. Powell said that some grocery store cashiers had been speculating that the federal government's shutdown caused the problem, but state officials have been assured that that is not the case.
ok, so it's welfare, food stamps, etc ..
Default looming, Day 14 of shutdown, no solution
Here comes a cliff Thelma, floor it Louise
...Let's tell em enough is enough ^^^^^Quote:
reaction of world markets and the Dow Jones
Dude...
Just stop with the mis-information
Here is the truth:
SAN ANGELO, Texas — Even when it comes to something as basic, and apparently as simple and straightforward, as the question of who shut down the federal government, there are diametrically opposite answers, depending on whether you talk to Democrats or to Republicans.
There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going — except for Obamacare. This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record.
As for the House of Representatives’ right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that congressmen there have a right to decide whether or not they want to spend money on a particular government activity.
Whether Obamacare is good, bad or indifferent is a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that members of the House of Representatives have a right to make spending decisions based on their opinion.
Obamacare is indeed “the law of the land,” as its supporters keep saying, and the Supreme Court has upheld its constitutionality. But the whole point of having a division of powers within the federal government is that each branch can decide independently what it wants to do or not do, regardless of what the other branches do, when exercising the powers specifically granted to that branch by the Constitution.
The hundreds of thousands of government workers who have been laid off are not idle because the House of Representatives did not vote enough money to pay their salaries or the other expenses of their agencies — unless they are in an agency that would administer Obamacare.
Since we cannot read minds, we cannot say who — if anybody — “wants to shut down the government.” But we do know who had the option to keep the government running and chose not to.
The money voted by the House of Representatives covered everything that the government does, except for Obamacare. The Senate chose not to vote to authorize that money to be spent, because it did not include money for Obamacare.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says that he wants a “clean” bill from the House of Representatives, and some in the media keep repeating the word “clean” like a mantra. But what is unclean about not giving Reid everything he wants?
If Reid and President Barack Obama refuse to accept the money required to run the government, because it leaves out the money they want to run Obamacare, that is their right. But that is also their responsibility. You cannot blame other people for not giving you everything you want. And it is a fraud to blame them when you refuse to use the money they did vote, even when it is ample to pay for everything else in the government.
When Obama keeps claiming that it is some new outrage for those who control the money to try to change government policy by granting or withholding money, that is simply a baldfaced lie. You can check the history of other examples of “legislation by appropriation,” as it used to be called.
Whether legislation by appropriation is a good idea or a bad idea is a matter of opinion. But whether it is both legal and not unprecedented is a matter of fact.
Perhaps the biggest of the big lies is that the government will not be able to pay what it owes on the national debt, creating a danger of default. Tax money keeps coming into the treasury during the shutdown, and it vastly exceeds the interest that has to be paid on the national debt.
Even if the debt ceiling is not lifted, that only means that government is not allowed to run up new debt. But that does not mean that it is unable to pay the interest on existing debt.
None of this is rocket science. But unless the Republicans get their side of the story out — and articulation has never been their strong suit — the lies will win. More important, the whole country will lose.
http://liberty-tribune.com/explore/n...ral-government
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Wow that like almost never happens, Al digs my response. LOL j/k.
Here's some more to chew on, and while I can't say I can confirm this stuff yet, it sounds very plausible.
First, I came across this,
"I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.
In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying-[park, facility, etc. with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown. There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies.
This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 month ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House."
Here's another,
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2013/10/11/...wheat-farmers/
History Rhymes: ObamaCare Website and the Ukrainian Wheat Farmers
The fact that the ObamaCare website is a complete clusterbungle that is totally inoperative is 100% INTENTIONAL.
It was designed to cause denial of service attacks on ITSELF, people.
Come on! Wake up! This isn’t difficult!
This reminds me exactly of the Ukraine under Stalin in the early 1930s. The Ukraine is the breadbasket of eastern Europe. Tremendous farming and wheat production was centered in the Ukraine. Under Lenin and then Stalin, all farms and food production were seized and controlled by the state. The Soviets hated the Ukrainians and wanted them all dead. All of them. So here’s what they did:
At wheat planting time, the farmers all went to the Soviet office in town to get their allocation of seed wheat to plant for that year’s crop. The Soviets stalled and stalled and then simply refused to give the Ukrainian farmers any seed. As the planting window narrowed day by day and then finally closed, the farmers became first ever more urgent and then resigned themselves in despair to the fact that they would have no crop that year.
Fast forward to wheat harvest time. The Soviet bureaucrats showed up at the farms and demanded that the farmers deliver that year’s wheat crop harvest. The farmers, in complete disbelief at the Soviets after having begged and pleaded for seed a few months earlier only to be ignored and then explicitly denied any seed by these very same Soviet bureaucrats, told them that there was no harvest because YOU REFUSED TO GIVE US ANY SEED.
The bureaucrats then accused the farmers of hiding and hoarding the wheat harvest, and summarily executed all of the men and teenaged boys on the spot as “enemies of the Revolution and the people”. Those were the lucky ones.
The Ukrainians left alive then slowly starved to death, many descending into the madness of starvation. Many Ukrainian women, insane with hunger, slaughtered, cooked and ate their own children. Some of those women survived the famine and carried the intense guilt of what they had done for the rest of their lives. Before this totally state-engineered famine was over, upwards of three million Ukrainians were dead in less than two years. This event is called The Holodomor.
This is what people who have hoarded an entire wheat harvest and gorged themselves on bread look like. Clearly. We know, because the nice people with the Hammer and Sickle shirts told us so..
This ObamaCare website is similar in tactic. You are going to be punished for failing to comply with ObamaCare, even though the regime has specifically and maliciously seen to it that compliance is impossible – not that any person of conscience should even attempt to comply with the satanic ObamaCare anyway.
It’s intentional.
It’s intentional.
It’s intentional.
History rhymes. Like an Irishman’s dirty limerick.
You people had better man up and do something real and concrete to depose these neo-Stalinist psychopaths. Mere talk and hand-wringing leads straight to mass graves.
Ann Barnhardt
www.barnhardt.biz
The Obamacare law in effect started in the Senate but passed under the guise that it wasn't a "Tax"Quote:
Constitution: ARTICLE I: LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT
Section 7. Clause 1. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
The Supreme Court ruled that it was a tax
Therefore, Obamacare is illegal because it is a tax that was levied by the Senate, not the House
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyLU9-VqVxY
Yes agreed, sadly we can say this about many "taxes" as well.
http://www.naturalnews.com/042479_EB...t_looting.html
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When the federal EBT food stamp system suffered a critical failure on Saturday, local retailers were disconnected from the federal food stamp database that keeps track of how much credit is left on each individual EBT card. Seizing the opportunity provided by the glitch, EBT card holders in Louisiana ransacked their local Wal-Mart stores, stuffing their shopping carts full of groceries and "paying" for them with near-empty EBT cards that essentially had unlimited account balances because all accounting was offline.
When the EBT database came back online and card purchase limits were suddenly restored, EBT card holders abandoned their full carts and just walked away, probably miffed that they missed out on participating in the felony theft of groceries.
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The story goes on to report that one woman who racked up $700 worth of groceries had only 49 cents on her card. That's $699.51 in theft.
That wasn't exactly the Event I was hoping for.
I use a card when I shop , says VISA on it, but here's the thing ...
At the stores I shop at they have an electronic reader I have to slide it through , it will either accept it or not accept it.
Louisiana might want to get some of the newer devices I see in any and all stores I frequent.
... or, I might just come down to Louisiana and say: trust me I'm good for it (ha ha LOL )
If Obamacare is illegal ?
So, why doesn't someone who knows the law do something about it ?
They have, and are doing. Problem is fighting a wanna-be dictator is time-consuming, energy-consuming, and most importantly, money-consuming. But there are a couple retired lawyers that have read ALL the pages of Obamacare, and that's more than people did to pass it in the first place. This indicates there is a fundamental (keyword in there is MENTAL) issue with how Congress and Senate work.
Because defunding it works for now, that's what was done. It at least buys time.
The problem with those who "know the law", most of them are also crooked as you well know. The payouts to their own bank account make them accomplices in a rouse.
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In 2006, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who was then governor of Massachusetts, signed off on a law requiring individuals of the state to purchase health insurance. American Bridge 21st Century, a Democratic opposition research group, on Wednesday released a 2006 video in which Romney says he is “very pleased” with the mandate.
“With regards to the individual mandate, the individual responsibility program that I proposed, I was very pleased that the compromise between the two houses includes the personal responsibility mandate. That is essential for bringing the health care costs down for everyone and getting everyone the health insurance they need," Romney says in the video.
As long as you are happy with their incredible abilities - I'd get the word out so that they are re-elected.Quote:
Lanson ~They have, and are doing.
Anyone else overjoyed at how the GOP is taking on Barack and showing him "We're not gonna take iT"Quote:
The mandate, requiring every American to purchase health insurance, appeared in a 1989 published proposal by Stuart M. Butler of the conservative Heritage Foundation called "Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans," which included a provision to "mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance."
The Heritage Foundation "substantially revised" its proposal four years later, according to a 1994 analysis by the Congressional Budget Office. But the idea of an individual health insurance mandate later appeared in two bills introduced by Republican lawmakers in 1993, according to the non-partisan research group ProCon.org. Among the supporters of the bills were senators Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, who today oppose the mandate under current law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AbeALNVkk
Rino's sadly rule the place, so I'm not surprised. The people I was speaking of before are NOT in electable position, but still are trying to make things happen to get these people out of office.
Reid (who comes from Nevada... we are so ashamed of him) is a dick and until he's removed, I wonder if Obama will be truly vulnerable.
Could be a two birds, one stone type of scandal that ruins them both. I'd be ok with that.
Also, I often think of that song whenever I think about politics. It is like an automatic switch.
This one may pas - 2 days til we go over the edge :mad:Quote:
In addition to approving legislation to fund the government until late this year and avert a possible debt crisis, the potential Senate pact would set up broader budget negotiations between the GOP-controlled House and Democratic-led Senate. One goal of those talks would be to ease automatic spending cuts that began in March and could deepen in January, when about $20 billion in further cuts are set to slam the Pentagon.
The reality is Lew will probably make it to almost November before we are out of dollars.Quote:
Mainstream conservatives were also unhappy. After shutting the government down for 15 days, they would get nothing — not even the meager concessions McConnell and Reid had been discussing.
The final blow came shortly after 5 p.m.,on Tuesday when Heritage Action for America, the powerful conservative group that drove Republicans to attack Obama’s health-care initiative, sent an e-mail urging lawmakers to vote no because the House bill “will do nothing to stop Obamacare’s massive new entitlements from taking root.”
Here is a windfall - That’s because, barring action by lawmakers, the cap on total defense and domestic “discretionary” spending is set $19 billion lower for fiscal 2014, which begins Oct. 1.
No one wants another war (Syria), so I'd spend the xtra dollars on the problems here at home (Obamacare).
A deal is made it will be announced shortly :happy:
Typical, wait till the almost the last minute. I bet if those fuckers hadn't been getting paid to jack around for the past week they would have come up with a deal before or the day after the shut down.
So, remember to vote for us in the future if you want Barack to do just what he feels, anytime he feels, you can count on us not to do shit.
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Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on Twitter: “To say we as Republicans left a lot on the table would be one of the biggest understatements in American political history.”
In particular, Republicans did not get: shit
Immediate agreed-to entitlement spending reductions or curbs.
A defunding of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare or a delay in Obamacare.
A repeal of or delay in the medical device tax. That tax will cost medical device manufacturers and importers $32.5 billion over the next ten years.
Ending the policy of the federal government paying a share of health insurance costs for members of Congress and congressional employees.
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... he needs to remember what he said as a Governor in 2006: Romney had unveiled a universal health insurance plan that would become his signature accomplishment
Passing that bill meant working closely with Democrats, and at its ceremonial signing at Boston's Faneuil Hall, Romney spoke as a political uniter: "What is noteworthy is the uncharacteristic collaboration of so many individuals and groups and partisans," Romney said at the time. "And how did that happen? I think it's because of what this bill can lead to — every citizen with affordable, comprehensive health insurance."
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The majority of Americans will continue to access care through a variety of health insurance plans made available or subsidized by their employer; nearly 50 million elderly and disabled through the federal Medicare program; another 60 million lowest-income through state-federal Medicaid arrangements.
I couldn't have said it better myself
http://www.policymic.com/articles/65...s-are-at-faultQuote:
The hyperbolic venting demonstrates a lack of understanding of the role of politics in our government. Politics are a series of negotiations in which sides offer alternatives until a consensus is built no matter how marginal. These negotiations determine how we are governed.
The GOP is doing what politicians are supposed to do. They are essentially offering to trade something that their audience generally doesn't like, increasing the debt limit, for something that its audience wants, defunding Obamacare ("ACA"). In the world of politics, the Democrats should respond with an alternative, one which protects the ACA while providing more party favors for the Republicans such as approval of the Keystone XL pipeline, offshore drilling, or reductions in pollution regulations. The breakdown in this process comes from the Democrats who have refused to participate in a political process.
The issue isn't the ACA as much as the President's belief that he can have it all. The president's position is nothing more than a political bet. He is betting that the Republicans will have to fold under the pressure that he creates. He is betting that they have picked the wrong issue, and that he will win by holding his breath. Understand the terms of the president's bet: Americans lose until he wins.
His bet puts his politics above the welfare of the nation, and yet he has the temerity to blame the Republicans for the consequences. The consequences are serious for the thousands of people who have been furloughed. These people have two weeks before their pay is cut. The consequences are more serious for those who depend upon programs reduced by the his intransigence.
These are serious consequences for everyone except the president because his bet is probably a smart bet. The ACA is open. The Republicans core base may or may not like the ACA, but that dislike will quickly erode as the government ceases to provide services. Moreover, people are blaming the Republicans.
If this scenario is winning to the president, he needs to remember what he said as a Senator in 2006: "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure ... I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.” Whether the Obama likes it or not, negotiating is part of his job.
The story here isn't about hostages or treason. It isn't about the ACA, or even the debt limit. This story is garden variety politics where America is the one that loses. Our government is for better or worse a political beast, and the political process within it has broken down. The government needs to shut down, until the pressure of failure builds on both sides to bring them together.
I actually really enjoyed the rant of the snapped stenographer at the end.
She opened up a can of worms, yelling about Freemasons writing the Constitution and how you can't serve two masters. Very nice!
Last night my wife and I were watching the news and we both flew through the roof when we found out that the contractor that is in charge of this monumental healthcare website is a canadian contractor... Nothing wrong with you flappy headed canuks but fuck man.... Way to prove that you don't give a fuck by awarding one of the biggest technology contracts to hit law to a foreign country!
"More jobs at home......"
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...ps5498b0b1.jpg
Latest I heard is that the roll out failure was on purpose. Since ACA was on everyone's mind, they could not afford to have people see just how much their premiums are going to go up. Now that the budget stuff is all settled, I think you will see the ACAwebsite being opened up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4109245.html
Change is here, Change it's what's for dinner !Quote:
Speaking candidly about the government shutdown during an interview with CNN, film legend Robert Redford slammed what he sees as the bigoted, "narrow-minded" actions of some members of the GOP and lamented the "decrepit" state of Washington politics.
Redford, said he believes that racism, fear of change and an insatiable desire to undermine President Barack Obama have been some of the driving forces behind the current political quagmire.
"I was trying to figure out, why are these people behaving so stupidly? Why are they behaving so horribly that it's crippling our whole country?" Redford said. "I think it has to do with fear. I think it's a group of people that are so afraid of change, and they're so narrow-minded that some people -- when they see change coming -- get so threatened by change, they get angry and they get terrorized, and then they get vicious."
If your automobile insurance company told you that they are going to allow people to buy totalled cars, and they will fix them, and your rates would increase..
Along with this they will provide free driving instruction (birth control) and oil changes (mammograms) for female drivers
How would you feel about that?
My insurance has already DOUBLED
Ahhh...more brilliant political insight from the Hollywood elite :facepalm:
Exactly, see my post previously http://www.caraudiojunkies.com/showt...ull=1#post7894
Not just the Obamacare website, but also the shutdown. It was all intentional. We even have proof now that the shutdown was completely planned well in advance, http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/bombshell...nned-shutdown/
Since there are tons of ads on that page, I'll just copy-paste to save you the hassle
WASHINGTON — The shutdown was deliberately orchestrated by the White House, according to the former foreign editor of Newsweek and editor-in-chief of the New York Times Magazine.
Why would the White House intentionally cause such pain and havoc across the country?
It is a ploy to win votes, concluded author Ed Klein.
He told the New York Post that President Obama’s closest adviser, Valerie Jarrett, developed a strategy to force a showdown with Republicans over Obamcare.
Jarrett recommended shutting down government because, Klein said, she believed voters would pin the blame on Republicans.
And that would give Democrats the opportunity to win control of the House of Representatives in the 2014 midterm elections.
Klein wrote a critical biography about Obama last year called “The Amateur.” He said he interviewed more than a half dozen White House and former presidential advisers about the shutdown plan.
Think you know the real Barack Obama? You don’t – not until you’ve read “The Amateur.”
He called Jarret the “architect” of the strategy of refusing to negotiate with Republicans over Obamacare.
“She convinced the president that a government shutdown and default offered a great opportunity to demonize the Republicans and help the Democrats win back a majority in the House of Representatives in 2014,” he explained.
“Valerie also came with the idea of using the words ‘hostage,’ and ‘ransom’ and ‘terrorists’ against the Republicans,” Klein maintained.
He said Jarrett’s advice to Obama was, “[D]o not cooperate one iota on Obamacare. Don’t give an inch. Let the Republicans stew in their own juice.”
Klein added, “Republicans walked into a trap set up by Valerie Jarrett and President Obama.”
Smoking gun?
Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, believes there was evidence in plain view that the administration planned the shutdown in advance.
Gohmert told Fox News that on the eve of the shutdown, Sept. 30, the administration already had barricades and cones in place.
“They had worked out in advance they were closing these things down.”
The congressman said “that’s the only thing that explains” why the White House turned down their proposals and compromises.
‘The Night Stalker’
Klein said White House insiders call Jarrett the “The Night Stalker” because she is the only presidential aide who is allowed to spend much time in the family quarters.
“Everyone in the Beltway knew Valerie Jarrett was influential,” he said. “They didn’t know how influential she was.”
He quoted top Democratic insider Vernon Jordan, whose wife is a cousin of Jarrett, as saying, “Her power derived from one simple fact — proximity. No one except Michelle Obama is closer to the president than Valerie.”
The White House has not commented.
so.... let's start kicking these fuckers out.
Kickin em out. Shouldn't be a problem if they can't see traps coming from 1,000 miles off !
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so.... let's start kicking these fuckers out.
problem is, I figured out the most of it with little to no help ... so why are the Repubicans SO short sighted ?
We need this guy,[Mike Needham], to take Boehners place.
http://heritageaction.com/2013/09/ob...ves-to-senate/
A month ago it was coming down, now it's up and running WTF:dizzy:Quote:
Today the House of Representatives voted to defund Obamacare on the continuing resolution by a vote of 230 to 189. Heritage Action CEO Mike Needham said:
“Today’s vote is a victory for the American people, who should not be forced to spend another dime on Obamacare. Opponents of the law are, and must remain, united in their opposition to funding this unworkable, unaffordable law. Senate Democrats must now make a decision: will they stand with President Obama to protect Obamacare or will they reject partisan politics to protect their constituents.”
Obamacare is a hazard to health care in America, but now the law is in critical condition, thanks to this move in the House. Defunding the law in its entirety would bring its implementation to a screeching halt – from the complicated Obamacare bureaucracy to the onerous rules and regulations.
__________________________________________________ __________________________
Jarrett has been there all along from what I'm reading - knew the Obama's in early nineties.
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Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, to African-American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman. Her father, a pathologist and geneticist, ran a hospital for children in Shiraz in 1950, as part of a program where American physicians and agricultural experts sought to help jump-start developing countries' health and farming efforts. When she was five, the family moved to London for one year, later moving to Chicago in 1963.[3] In 1966, her mother was one of four child advocates that created the Erikson Institute. The Institute was established to provide advanced knowledge in child development for teachers and other professionals working with young children.[4]
As a child she spoke Persian and French.[5] Her great-grandfather was Jewish.[6]
Jarrett graduated from Northfield Mount Hermon in 1974. She earned a B.A. in Psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and a Juris Doctor (J.D.) from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...diers-tab.html
[QUOTE]A New Hampshire waitress who picked up the lunch tab of two National Guard soldiers affected by the federal government's shutdown has been repaid - more than 300 times over - by television star Ellen DeGeneres.
Sarah Hoidahl, a waitress in Concord, N.H., just wanted to do a nice thing for the soldiers, so she recently picked up their lunch tab. It cost her $27.75.
On Friday, Degeneres squared the tab and then some, giving Hoidahl $27.75 in cash and a check for $10,000.
Ellen also gave her a 50-inch television.
“Today’s vote is part of a long and sad effort for the American people, who should not be forced to spend another dime on Obamacare. 'P-0-0-F'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BiqSwWIAxU
Hic, are you for Obamacare, or do you just like tossing around gasoline and seeing if it ignites?
^that^